GDT: Ducks @ Sens 4pm PST

[broman]

Just getting Kesler (albeit not hurt) and Vats back will boost this team tremendously though

This. Well be in much better shape soon.

 

[Kalv]

Vengeance for Ricky after having his name completely butchered in the pre game announcements haha "Raykill"

Well to be fair his GWG was quick like a ray and it killed the Sens

 

[perrygetzanother]

so the goalie that ends in "sen" is not a sen, but the goalie that ends in "son" is a sen.

 

[snarktacular]

Bieksa has a NMC, we are not getting rid of him why does everyone keep acting like we can.

I've said it before and I'll say it again, NMC doesn't prevent movement. It just has to be to a place they approve. And you will get crap value in return because of this. But consider that Vancouver still managed to steal a 2nd from Murray so it might not be that bad.

In some sense if a NMC is worth more than an NTC to players it might be more worth it to us to offer NMCs. As a budget team, we won't be burying big salaries in the minors anyways.

 

[dracom]

I've said it before and I'll say it again, NMC doesn't prevent movement. It just has to be to a place they approve. And you will get cheap value in return because of this. But consider that Vancouver still managed to steal a 2nd from Murray so it might not be that bad.

Why would he waive his NMC to leave SoCal, a contender, and his best friend? Bieska is staying.

 

[snarktacular]

Why would he waive his NMC to leave SoCal, a contender, and his best friend? Bieska is staying.

When your team says they don't want you, you will leave.

 

[Getzmonster]

Wasn't Bieksa's first choice the Sharks? I'm going from memory, so I could be wrong, but that might diminish the idea that Kev is married to Anaheim just because his buddy is here.

 

[Kalv]

Wasn't Bieksa's first choice the Sharks? I'm going from memory, so I could be wrong, but that might diminish the idea that Kev is married to Anaheim just because his buddy is here.

He almost went to the Sharks but if my memory is correct then there was no indication suggesting Sharks was his priority and he was happy ending up in Anaheim

 

[Ducks Nation*]

I've said it before and I'll say it again, NMC doesn't prevent movement. It just has to be to a place they approve. And you will get crap value in return because of this. But consider that Vancouver still managed to steal a 2nd from Murray so it might not be that bad.

In some sense if a NMC is worth more than an NTC to players it might be more worth it to us to offer NMCs. As a budget team, we won't be burying big salaries in the minors anyways.

He is not leaving. The same way Joe Thornton didn't want to leave and he is actually a good player still.

You can dream all you want but we are stuck with this piece of ****.

 

[WhatTheDuck]

 

[AngelDuck]

Great comeback. We're missing a ton of skill with Kesler, Vatanen, and Perron all out. And I still think we're a much better team with Despres in the lineup than with him out. Would be nice to get all 4 of those guys back for the playoffs.

Stewart is pretty underrated. He's actually a useful player who can play on any line. Santorelli should never see time on Getzlaf's line instead of Stewart

 

[snarktacular]

He is not leaving. The same way Joe Thornton didn't want to leave and he is actually a good player still.

You can dream all you want but we are stuck with this piece of ****.

You mean like how Bieksa didn't waive his NTC to come here? Kaberle successfully stayed for a couple years, but in the end he waived too.

The list of players who ended up waiving is very long.

 

[The Midnight Burrito]

You mean like how Bieksa didn't waive his NTC to come here? Kaberle successfully stayed for a couple years, but in the end he waived too.

The list of players who ended up waiving is very long.

Have you seen the skill on this kid Sekac? ****ing unreal.

 

[Dr Johnny Fever]

I've said it before and I'll say it again, NMC doesn't prevent movement. It just has to be to a place they approve. And you will get crap value in return because of this. But consider that Vancouver still managed to steal a 2nd from Murray so it might not be that bad.

In some sense if a NMC is worth more than an NTC to players it might be more worth it to us to offer NMCs. As a budget team, we won't be burying big salaries in the minors anyways.

I agree with your point in general, but digging a little deeper in this specific case I'm not so sure it's the same scenario playing out.

Younger guys with NMCs definitely use it to pick their next spot because they usually still have a future in front of them. If I'm not mistaken, Kev had a NTC in VAN and was quite happy there. He didn't really want to leave. But, as you said, he was no longer wanted there and was approached about waiving. But his conditions for waiving (asidie from a city he liked) were that the new team immediately give hime two more years and the NMC. He knows it's the end of the line and doesn't want to move his family multiple times near the end. I think he wants to finish out his career here and won't be interested in waiving for anybody. If the Ducks don't want him they can buy him out. I'd bet he is more than willing to call their bluff.

 

[Ducks Nation*]

You mean like how Bieksa didn't waive his NTC to come here? Kaberle successfully stayed for a couple years, but in the end he waived too.

The list of players who ended up waiving is very long.

Except we will be a playoff team for a long time and Vancouver is getting shut out every game and has probably the worst future of any team at the moment.

 

[snarktacular]

Except we will be a playoff team for a long time and Vancouver is getting shut out every game and has probably the worst future of any team at the moment.

Why would you stay if your team doesn't want you?

Especially when they have all sorts of control. They could cut down your minutes or bench you. They could bar you from even coming to the team facilities. The only thing they are required to do is to pay you.


If a girl says she doesn't want to see you any more, do you just stand on the sidewalk (public property!) in front of her house until she takes you back? Do you just follow her around all day?

 

[Ducks Nation*]

Why would you stay if your team doesn't want you?

Especially when they have all sorts of control. They could cut down your minutes or bench you. They could bar you from even coming to the team facilities. The only thing they are required to do is to pay you.


If a girl says she doesn't want to see you any more, do you just stand on the sidewalk (public property!) in front of her house until she takes you back? Do you just follow her around all day?

Because our coach plays him the most minutes on the team when he sucks.

 

[snarktacular]

Because our coach plays him the most minutes on the team when he sucks.

If the team decides he has to go, the coach won't continue to do that.