Proposal: DUCKS send one of [Larsson/Lindholm/Fowler/Mahura] to MTL

[Zegs2sendhelp]

We do, and you have 4 amazing D on the LHD..

Poehling and suzuki are seen as #2 with a #1 ceiling

Maybe if we had Pettersson still, we could move 1 of the guys listed(not Lindholm).

But after the pettersson trade we have Lindholm-fowler-Larsson-Mahura… if 1 guy gets injured the 4th guy is pretty important... maybe if we take a LD in the 1st round this year. I like Mahura/Larsson a lot tho… I think if I was to move any of our dmen it would be fowler, but he has a NTC im pretty sure.

Nothing against the players/prospects listed.... just don't think we can move anyone else this season after the pettersson trade unless its something that could help us this year.

 

[Just Linda]

All this debate about prospects but Anaheim needs young roster players.

Drouin for Fowler+

Age being the value difference.

 

[HockeyDBspecialist]

Maybe if we had Pettersson still, we could move 1 of the guys listed(not Lindholm).

But after the pettersson trade we have Lindholm-fowler-Larsson-Mahura… if 1 guy gets injured the 4th guy is pretty important... maybe if we take a LD in the 1st round this year. I like Mahura/Larsson a lot tho… I think if I was to move any of our dmen it would be fowler, but he has a NTC im pretty sure.

Nothing against the players/prospects listed.... just don't think we can move anyone else this season after the pettersson trade unless its something that could help us this year.

A pretty well concised text and good respond from a Ducks!

Do you see Mahura staying a third LHD ? it annoys me mostly because all your LHD have a #1 D ceiling but someone will end on the last pair.

 

[Zegs2sendhelp]

A pretty well concised text and good respond from a Ducks!

Do you see Mahura staying a third LHD ? it annoys me mostly because all your LHD have a #1 D ceiling but someone will end on the last pair.

Hm that's tough to say.... I think mahura has a pretty high upside.... but hell be kinda stuck behind Lindholm/Fowler for a pretty long while. So unless fowler/Lindholm is injured long term or 1 is moved mahura/Larsson will likely never get a chance to show how good they are.

I will say I like mahura more than I ever liked theodore/Montour as prospects. Larsson tends to get slept on on the boards(ducks/main/prospects) but I think hes going to be a very solid top 4 dmen.

 

[Exit Dose]

All this debate about prospects but Anaheim needs young roster players.

Drouin for Fowler+

Age being the value difference.

We aren't adding to Fowler to make a Drouin trade happen. Drouin has to do something other than just being a few years younger to make that happen.

 

[Exit Dose]

Maybe if we had Pettersson still, we could move 1 of the guys listed(not Lindholm).

But after the pettersson trade we have Lindholm-fowler-Larsson-Mahura… if 1 guy gets injured the 4th guy is pretty important... maybe if we take a LD in the 1st round this year. I like Mahura/Larsson a lot tho… I think if I was to move any of our dmen it would be fowler, but he has a NTC im pretty sure.

Nothing against the players/prospects listed.... just don't think we can move anyone else this season after the pettersson trade unless its something that could help us this year.

Fowler's NTC is that he can give a list of teams that he won't accept a trade to. The number of teams that he can put on that list is small - something like 4 or 5, if memory serves.

To add to the discussion around trading our prospects, the expansion draft is the biggest reason why those young and cheap defenseman likely stay put in the short term.

 

[Spazkat]

All this debate about prospects but Anaheim needs young roster players.

Drouin for Fowler+

Age being the value difference.

Age difference is more than offset by the positional value. D > W Especially a wing with a career high 53 points

 

[ConnorMcMullet]

and im guessing lindholm is a no haha.

hmm, No way we deal Drouin or Domi, it's our best winger and our best center, we would have a giant hole after that trade.

Fowler for Poehling + 2rd + 3rd + tatar or Byron ?

Gallagher?

 

[HockeyDBspecialist]

Gallagher?

Lindholm for gallagher + ?

 

[ConnorMcMullet]

Lindholm for gallagher + ?

I quoted where you said that Drouin was your best winger. I thought you guys considered Gallagher to be better than Drouin.

 

[PatrikBerglund]

Domi, Mete, Drouin & 1st for Lindholm.

 

[lifelonghockeyfan]

Ducks are in the same position as the Habs, trying to make the playoffs. Can't imagine Ducks trading a good starting Dman for futures.

 

[Zegs2sendhelp]

Lindholm for gallagher + ?

Lindholm prob not moving for anything less than an eichel/matthews lvl center

 

[HockeyDBspecialist]

I quoted where you said that Drouin was your best winger. I thought you guys considered Gallagher to be better than Drouin.

talent wise, no.
Heart and soul, ya

but Drouin is also younger by 3 years.

 

[HockeyDBspecialist]

Ducks are in the same position as the Habs, trying to make the playoffs. Can't imagine Ducks trading a good starting Dman for futures.

The thing with the Ducks is that they have 4 LHD who all have the ceilling to be on a first pair, so in the end one of the guy will play less minute on the last pair. I think it's a waste of talent and asset to have 4 amazing LHD and 1 is not going to play between Larsson/Mahura/Lindholm/fowler.

If Mahura can give you a future #2 center, why not ?

 

[powerstuck]

what would be in your opinion a grade A prospect?
just curious.

Well, it's well known on HF that all Leafs prospects are A or A+.
All other teams prospects are B+ at best. But they all have potential to become A+ in the 24 hours following a trade to Toronto.

 

[jellybeans]

Morgan Frost has the most points in the OHL over the past 2 years and I think it’s a little overzealous to rank him an A.

May be borderline A, but topend A-.

So he's a grade a prospect.

 

[HockeyDBspecialist]

Well, it's well known on HF that all Leafs prospects are A or A+.
All other teams prospects are B+ at best. But they all have potential to become A+ in the 24 hours following a trade to Toronto.

Also, don't forget that they have one of the worst D squad in the entire league, but they are still trying to trade them every single day for top players

" I will trade you Gardiner + Liljegren + Dermott" for Pietrangelo"

 

[CapnZin]

So he's a grade a prospect.

Lol... in general terms he can be defined as an A, you’re not wrong.

Looking into a deeper analysis, he’s on that border. It’s hard because we don’t know what he’s like, production wise, or even play style, against tougher competition.

When drafted he wasn’t an A, or maybe he was, but I think to call Frost a nonexpendable piece that leads a core could be overzealous at this time.

I wouldn’t trade him st all, he seems to be a great prospect, but I think as a group we label without defining. You know what I mean? There are distinctions with differences.

 

[Zegs2sendhelp]

The thing with the Ducks is that they have 4 LHD who all have the ceilling to be on a first pair, so in the end one of the guy will play less minute on the last pair. I think it's a waste of talent and asset to have 4 amazing LHD and 1 is not going to play between Larsson/Mahura/Lindholm/fowler.

If Mahura can give you a future #2 center, why not ?

Larsson and mahura (and to a lesser extent Lindholm) have all played on the right side a bit. I think ideally our roster looks like
Lindholm Manson
Fowler Dotchin
Larsson Montour

Mahura as a call up for injurys, hes still young and raw.. no need to rush him up and if he starts to show some high lvl talent at the NHL level... then maybe we look to move fowler in the offseason. But mahura isn't exactly NHL ready yet.

 

[crowi]

Lindholm for gallagher + ?

The plus here is a player you don't have? Maybe make a trade for one of them before suggesting such a deal.

 

[CapSpace]

Domi, Mete, Drouin & 1st for Lindholm.

This is f***ing insane. Get a grip.

 

[PatrikBerglund]

This is ****ing insane. Get a grip.

You are right, Montreal has to add 2 more 1sts.

 

[Anaheim4ever]

Lindholm is not being traded, he's producing more offensively this year than Ekman-Larsson, he is the Ducks #1D man, plays the most minutes, is good in both ends of the ice, offensively he's playing his best hockey this season & last season was a career high in his points per game rate.

I'd be open to moving Fowler for the right trade. The team looks fine with Larsson/Manson 2nd pairing.
If Fowler were traded then eventually in the future Mahura becomes the teams 2nd pair LHD.

 

[Sojourn]

Lindholm is not being traded, he's producing more offensively this year than Ekman-Larsson, he is the Ducks #1D man, plays the most minutes, is good in both ends of the ice, offensively he's playing his best hockey this season & last season was a career high in his points per game rate.

I'd be open to moving Fowler for the right trade. The team looks fine with Larsson/Manson 2nd pairing.
If Fowler were traded then eventually in the future Mahura becomes the teams 2nd pair LHD.

They look fine with Gibson carrying them.

It isn't the same thing at all.