Proposal: DUCKS send one of [Larsson/Lindholm/Fowler/Mahura] to MTL
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Cotton
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Depends how you rank. For myself, I’d be comfortably putting Suzuki as an A- and Poehling a B+/A-
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THe cost of Fowler would be less than the cost of Mahura for the Ducks ?
if it is right, I would gladly offer your great pieces for Fowler, such a fluid skater with the puck
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I don'T understand how people cannot rank Suzuki a A rank prospect.... he is carrying his team and the OHL
JeffreyLFC
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Morgan Frost has the most points in the OHL over the past 2 years and I think it’s a little overzealous to rank him an A.
May be borderline A, but topend A-.
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Drouin or Domi for Fowler is the only deal I would consider but don’t think the Habs do it. Fowler also has a NTC. Don’t see us being interested in moving Larsson or Mahura right now either.
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Frost is A prospect, Suzuki is A prospect..... not complicated to understand, they are both similar
Suzuki is superior imo, but there's no discussion to have here because we both won't win
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and im guessing lindholm is a no haha.
hmm, No way we deal Drouin or Domi, it's our best winger and our best center, we would have a giant hole after that trade.
Fowler for Poehling + 2rd + 3rd + tatar or Byron ?
Lindholm= 1c, high-end 2c, or top line winger+
Young 1D with good 2-way game and a solid contract. Highly unlikely to move
Fowler = Top 6 winger or 2C
Top 4D with excellent puck moving skills. Not elite defensively but not a liability. Often projected to be the future C due to leadership qualities. Many Duck fans want to move him because of his contract. If the contract was better, he probably returns a top-line F
Mahura/Larsson = Top 6 F or projected prospect+
Both young D who have been playing fairly well. Very similar playstyles to Fowler (more offensive-minded but still responsible defensively). Only being 20/21 and on their ELC, their value is still highly subjective. Mahura seems to be outperforming Larsson but his sample size is smaller. I would say both project to be middle pairing D with an outside shot at being top pairing quality.
Young 1D with good 2-way game and a solid contract. Highly unlikely to move
Fowler = Top 6 winger or 2C
Top 4D with excellent puck moving skills. Not elite defensively but not a liability. Often projected to be the future C due to leadership qualities. Many Duck fans want to move him because of his contract. If the contract was better, he probably returns a top-line F
Mahura/Larsson = Top 6 F or projected prospect+
Both young D who have been playing fairly well. Very similar playstyles to Fowler (more offensive-minded but still responsible defensively). Only being 20/21 and on their ELC, their value is still highly subjective. Mahura seems to be outperforming Larsson but his sample size is smaller. I would say both project to be middle pairing D with an outside shot at being top pairing quality.
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Suzuki is an A. Easily.
That said, it makes no sense for the Habs to give him up for a non-Lindholm defenseman from the Ducks, and trading Lindholm is about the worst thing the Ducks could do anyway. Makes no sense to discuss him.
That said, it makes no sense for the Habs to give him up for a non-Lindholm defenseman from the Ducks, and trading Lindholm is about the worst thing the Ducks could do anyway. Makes no sense to discuss him.
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Nah. I don't see the Ducks looking to trade another D right now, and MTL make bad trade partners. Murray is supposedly looking for another LD, so depending on what happens with that the situation could change.
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Suz is an easy A not sure what people are talking about. Nobody is saying he is a franchise player but a very solid prospect . Poehling would be a B+
I rather keep both and no trade any of our young players, so I do not get these threads. We need to build and acquire more picks, young prospects and not trade them away sigh.
I rather keep both and no trade any of our young players, so I do not get these threads. We need to build and acquire more picks, young prospects and not trade them away sigh.
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I looked around this morning and couldn't find Suzuki on any published top 50 prospect lists, and was ranked 2nd or 3rd behind Glass and Brannstrom in Vegas on all of the organizational rankings that I could find. Not sure how "A" is being defined, he's fine as a top organizational prospect if you have more that are close to him imo but not someone that I'd want to pin my hopes to as a future face of the franchise
Poehling I'd call a B+, still hard to tell what he is
Poehling I'd call a B+, still hard to tell what he is
Habs Halifax
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Suzuki is a grade A prospect at this stage. Don't listen to them. Lets see how he looks at the U20's.
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Just because the Leafs don't have an A-grade prospect it doesn't mean Suzuki isn't
As most have said Suzuki is definitely an A-grade prospect.
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Poehling is not a grade B. He is a grade A. If you think Poehling is a grade B, you don't know who he is and what kind of game he brings. Because you had to "look around" I doubt you know too much about Poehling.
For the record... it goes like this according to my personal standards:
- Elite Level.. Franchise type player
- Grade A
- Grade B
Randy Randerson
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again, depends on how you define the grades. If Poehling is your top prospect with current info, you have a bad farm system. So to me, B+
coming into this year, Liljegren was universally rated above Suzuki on every publication I could find, fwiw
I’d guess the ducks aren’t looking to add a winger with Aberg doing so well for now and waiting to see what Sprong does
We are facing a logjam of wingers if we ever get healthy
Someone mention we were looking to add a D so I’d guess we are a bad fit if that’s true
We are facing a logjam of wingers if we ever get healthy
Someone mention we were looking to add a D so I’d guess we are a bad fit if that’s true
Habs Halifax
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1) Post 22 tells you my grade structure.
2) Liljegren vs Suzuki. They are at different development paths. It's hard to measure between the two. One plays AHL (meh type production) and the other plays OHL (1.5 pts/game over the last 3 seasons).
I actually think Sandin has passed Lijegren at this stage. It's easier to measure between these two cause they both play AHL. We won't know if Suzuki takes a step forward or a step back until he turns Pro. A good measuring stick is in the U20 worlds.
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