GDT: Ducks at Canes...

[Ole Gil]

Average goaltending, and the canes win. Hopefully Darling plays better soon.

 

[Identity404]

Just keep going down this path, no matter how ridiculous it is. You're like the Bill Peters of our board. Just keep going with what doesn't work.

But without that sweet Kinetico money.

Keep on keeping on with what doesn't work is a great strategy that I full support and was clearly what I am saying /s.

 

[Roboturner913]

And here I was having just googled the score, thinking "hey loser point, that's not so bad"

 

[bluedevil58]

Should I go ahead and start an off season or draft 2018 thread? Seriously.

 

[Navin R Slavin]

No.

As enraging as this shit is, they still have a chance to put together a good run of points if they get their shit together.

But they'd better win the next three games, and they'd better look damned good doing it.

 

[CandyCanes]

I like turtles

 

[Breakdowns]

And here I was having just googled the score, thinking "hey loser point, that's not so bad"

the real question here is - did you score? *wink wink*

 

[Stickpucker]

RE forwards....I would bet Vegas was willing to deal some scoring for a 2022 2nd rounder before they started the season on fire and well within the playoff hunt

Stepan was available.

If we paid the price to have Stepan between Skinner Williams that would have been awesome.

 

[Stickpucker]

RE Peters....

I think he neuters creativity to play his system too much. Probably tells the guys to not even lay a hit for fear of taking a penalty.

I wouldn't mind moving on from him so long as Smith stayed around to run the defense....he's done an amazing job.

 

[Cardiac Jerks]

RE forwards....I would bet Vegas was willing to deal some scoring for a 2022 2nd rounder before they started the season on fire and well within the playoff hunt

Stepan was available.

If we paid the price to have Stepan between Skinner Williams that would have been awesome.

Who's to say Stepan was available to a divisional rival? Or at the same cost?

 

[Big Daddy Cane]

Carolina didn't have as expendable asset the quality of the 7th overall pick, even if the Rangers had been willing to trade him within the division and the cost had been the same.

 

[My Special Purpose]

RE Peters....

I think he neuters creativity to play his system too much. Probably tells the guys to not even lay a hit for fear of taking a penalty.

I wouldn't mind moving on from him so long as Smith stayed around to run the defense....he's done an amazing job.

Interesting point here, in that the Canes just played arguably their two least effective games of the season the past three days and didn't take a single penalty in either of them.

And as for there being no trades available to get an elite offensive guy. On top of being patently ridiculous on its face, there are also trades to be made on draft day in terms of trading up instead of waiting around at No. 5 or No. 7 to take the best d-man in the draft. There are ways to get elite forward talent. Lots of teams have elite forwards. We just aren't one of them because we're not willing to do what it takes.

 

[Big Daddy Cane]

Rubbish.

No team has knowingly traded a Top 5 pick since 2008.

 

[CandyCanes]

My Kucherov offer sheet I was dreaming about would be looking really good right about now. The Lightning weren't even willing to give him a big long term deal of above $8 mill two off seasons ago. Instead he got a 3 year $4.5M per deal. If the sheet got matched at least it'd of caused some cap problems for them.

 

[Roboturner913]

the real question here is - did you score? *wink wink*

I mean, I'm here, posting on a message board....what do you think

 

[Wolfpuck]

I mean, I'm here, posting on a message board....what do you think

You're good at multitasking?

 

[FlyingSquirrels]

The harsh reality of the situation is that the Canes were never bad enough during the retool/rebuild to get that elite offensive talent in the draft. I’m not sure that’s a situation that GMRF can trade his way out of.

The Canes are going to have to try to win with depth and that’s still a work in progress. McGinn can’t be a Top 9 winger on this team if it wants to be on the right side of the bubble. The same goes for Ryan, if the other two centers are Staal and Rask. Unfortunately, Stempniak is out with his injury right now. There really wasn’t a center upgrade available this offseason at a price the Canes could afford to pay.

And no, I don’t think the team could or can afford to trade Hanifin for Duchene. Fleury and Dahlbeck as the 2nd and 3rd pairing LD is a recipe for disaster.

Hanifin has been beyond brutal. So no. Dahlbeck nor Fleury is a step down. Rather I'd argue a significant step up

 

[bluedevil58]

I am very disappoint.

 

[HisIceness]

Should have tanked for McDavid or Eichel in 2015. This squad had absolutely nothing to gain winning those useless late season games. But of course knowing our luck we would have just ended up picking 5th anyway.

The last two seasons they were already too ahead of the curve anyway.

 

[Finlandia WOAT]

Actually, that period is *exactly* why they lost. They were tied after regulation, then dominated overtime but couldn't beat a goalie whose best years are well behind him. Failure to convert on at least a half-dozen golden opportunities is *exactly* why they lost. And it's why they lose a lot of games. Failing to convert opportunities.

And you think Brock f***ing McGinn and his 11 goals in 86 games is just the "finish" they need to make a difference on the 3v3?

And you can play that logic with literally any other aspect of the game. Goaltending, even strength scoring, regulation, power play. The difference is, the Hurricanes played to put the percentages in the favor of a win, but did not (it happens); on the flipside Darling played to put the percentages in the favor of a loss , and which did happen.

It's asinine to blame the forwards for failing to score while dominating an exhausted Ducks team in the extra period while ignoring the replacement level goaltending they got tonight from their starter. If this is going to be the norm not even Brock McGinn on 3v3 can save them.

 

[Big Daddy Cane]

Hanifin has been beyond brutal. So no. Dahlbeck nor Fleury is a step down. Rather I'd argue a significant step up

Dahleck is a significant step up on Hanifin?

That's certainly not a hyperbolic thought.

 

[Identity404]

I mean, I'm here, posting on a message board....what do you think

 

[Stormie]

Such pessimism here. We always have a chance at the lottery guys.

 

[HisIceness]

Such pessimism here. We always have a chance at the lottery guys.

Come on now, you know that isn't going to happen. They will get hot in March like they always do.

 

[Roboturner913]

and this was BEFORE listening to Joe Buck for 5-plus hours