TSN: Dreger on the Radio - No Interest in Vanek
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wingsnut19
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Vladdy84
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Number1RedWingsFan52
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I thought they said that 3 to 4 teams had interest in Vanek, Maybe they're not willing to give up what Holland is asking.
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This is probably when the 'history talk' comes into play. When Vanek was traded to Montreal last time he was deemed a disapointment, so therefore they're probably not intersted this time around.
Very suprised though that no team in west would show interest, he's very cost controlled after all. Chicago/anaheim/nashville/calgary/sharks are all logical destinations.
BinCookin
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Holland burned bridges? I doubt it.
This would be more a result of
Minn no interest (Bought him out)
Mtl (let him walk)
Vanek has a history of crap play. Its probably why most people on HFBoards are very much opposed to picking up Vanek.
This is very surprising to us, as we have seen a very good player playing here this year. I mean IMHO Zetterberg / Vanek should be equal in value.
Here is the question then:
Do you stick to your guns and demand a 1st right up until the deadline or do you take what ever you can, even if it's a third?
2nds and 3rds are nice, but I think I'd rather see Holland go down swinging on the big ticket. He certainly needs to posture this way even if he really would accept a 3rd round pick last minute.
Do you stick to your guns and demand a 1st right up until the deadline or do you take what ever you can, even if it's a third?
2nds and 3rds are nice, but I think I'd rather see Holland go down swinging on the big ticket. He certainly needs to posture this way even if he really would accept a 3rd round pick last minute.
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Like I said, Vanek's track record is not good. Plus, he's not exactly your prototypical playoff guy. He's a soft-ish scorer type who's best when he's playing down in the lineup, winning matchups against lower lines.
We'll be lucky if we can get a second.
We'll be lucky if we can get a second.
This is hilarious. Brendan Smith gets a 2018 2nd and 2017 3rd and, allegedly, no one wants Vanek.
general managers do not like tire kickers, which we all know holland is as he essentially coined the term. Does it play a huge factor? probably not. but it's not insignificant imo
BinCookin
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I think Holland is going to get what he can get.
Him keeping Vanek is a mistake. Even if we can only get a 3rd. Take it.
Because we cannot afford to sign Vanek.
Infact if we want to sign him in FA. We likely will pay less for him, than if we resign him right now.
Since every other team apparently hates him, I feel Detroit does NOT have to give him even a fair salary to sign him. As no one else seems to want him.
gretskidoo
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If there's no interest in Vanek and Smith gets a 2nd+3rd, GMs around the league are genuinely dumb.
Which is exactly why teams should be all over him. He hasn't been a big minute muncher for Detroit and he's done tons with it. This guy playing on your 3rd line would be killer. The history that people are harkening back to is when the guy was relied upon to be the star player.
Vladdy84
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He was speaking in terms of Hudler last year netting 37 points in 53 games and garnering a 2nd and 4th from Florida in a trade.
Chance on Chance
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Hudler had bigger seasons in Calgary than Vanek and went for a 2nd and 4th? The cost for slow, complimentary scoring wingers with a spotty playoff history isn't through the roof.
I think Vanek is a great add for some team, but like I said, temper expectations. He's not the same guy physically when he left Buffalo.
I see this a lot but he has 14 points in his last 27 playoff games. With Montreal, he tied for the teams goal scoring lead in playoffs and was above point/game down the stretch drive leading into playoffs
I'd also point to Phil Kessel as a guy who had his warts on a sub-par team but really elevated himself after being traded to a top team. I doubt Vanek would go point/game but there is no reason to think he can't maintain what he is doing now with a better club.
Ultimately, any player is only worth what other GMs will be willing to give up but the narrative about him disappearing when it matters is unfounded.
Number1RedWingsFan52
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Nope LTIR Kronwall for his last 2 years a buy out of Ericsson would be another 6 years of dead money still have 4 more years on Weiss Kronwall can have career ending knee surgery and just LTIR it for his last 2 years that's what i see happening here.
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