Speculation: Draisaitl will out produce mcdavid this year..

[Mr Positive]

you're a little mixed up here about something.

It is true that we are going for a Crosby-Malkin type duo down the middle, and that makes sense because Draisaitl would be the 1C on a lot of teams out there.

However, Drai is no Malkin. Malkin would be the 1C on MOST teams, like maybe only a couple teams would have him as 2C (edmonton, pittsburgh... and maybe that's it). Some people call Malkin generational. Drai is similar to someone like Monahan (is better imo but it's not established fact at this time).

 

[Draiskull]

RNH has a better chance of outproducing Draisaitl in comparison to Drai outproducing McD

 

[Jejune]

RNH has a better chance of outproducing Draisaitl in comparison to Drai outproducing McD

Yes, this.

 

[tiger_80]

I think it's possible Draisaitl will outscore McDavid once in a while in the course of their careers (as was the case in the playoffs), but the law of large numbers says it is more likely that McDavid will consistently put up more points.

 

[oobga]

Well, let’s all just hope Drai goes into every game determined to make this happen.

 

[tiger_80]

Yes, this.

Not really. Draisaitl is closer to McDavid than RNH to Draisaitl. THe difference is Draisaitl can drive the line against the top competition. RNH is at best a mediocre 2nd line center, who is not particularly good at anything. That's the truth.

 

[Jejune]

Not really. Draisaitl is closer to McDavid than RNH to Draisaitl. THe difference is Draisaitl can drive the line against the top competition. RNH is at best a mediocre 2nd line center, who is not particularly good at anything. That's the truth.

I would bet that RNH's ppg is closer to Draisaitl's than Draisaitl's is to McDavid's, assuming Draisaitl is not on McDavid's wing. Would be a fun bet.

 

[Delicious Pancakes]

I wouldn't be surprised to see Drai net 85 points this year. I think Connor can top 110 though.

Team scored 243 goals last year. With a full calendar year more of chemistry and growth I see them scoring another 25 goals this year which would put them among the league leaders and would mean more points for both Draisaitl and McDavid.

I think Drai could hit 100 points but not this year. As has been posted by others Drai could top McDavid in the playoffs again due to the type of game that's played in the playoffs.

 

[bone]

If this comes true, the Oilers are challenging for the President's Trophy (and Stanley Cup) or Connor got hurt. That is all.

 

[voxel]

I would bet that RNH's ppg is closer to Draisaitl's than Draisaitl's is to McDavid's, assuming Draisaitl is not on McDavid's wing. Would be a fun bet.

Draisatil has been an even strength beast during his time in NA. Always said the ice tilts when he is on it.

Nuge is a PP specialist in terms of points (he plays a two way game I know).

 

[Da McBomb]

Yah... not happening.

I'll be happy if Drai can carry his own line and be able to match his production from last season.

 

[Belieber]

Mcdavid underperformed based on his scoring chances last year, he missed a lot of opportunities I don't expect him to miss going forward. There is no way anyone in the NHL will match or outproduce McJesus going forward, he's so far in his own class it's crazy, the most dominant player in the world.

 

[Asiaoil]

Probably not but Drai is the only guy on the team who actually believes he can be better than McDavid on any given night - and some nights he actually is better as we saw in the playoffs. Don't under-estimate Drai as he is turning into a complete beast and the friendly competition between our top two centers will be an amazing thing to watch in the coming years.

 

[McShogun99]

If Mcdavid scores close to 80 points over a full season then half the people on this board would commit suicide. If Draisaitl scores 80 points over a full season then we would all say that his contract was a steal...

 

[tiger_80]

If Mcdavid scores close to 80 points over a full season then half the people on this board would commit suicide. If Draisaitl scores 80 points over a full season then we would all say that his contract was a steal...

Why are people selling McDavid so short? I keep seeing 80-90 points. He scored 100 points as a not quite physically mature 19 year old, while getting robbed of a bunch of points by refs and teammates missing open nets. I'd be very surprised if he does not score 100+ points this year.

 

[slaman]

Why are people selling McDavid so short? I keep seeing 80-90 points. He scored 100 points as a not quite physically mature 19 year old, while getting robbed of a bunch of points by refs and teammates missing open nets. I'd be very surprised if he does not score 100+ points this year.

I think that's what he's saying... if McDavid ONLY scored 80-90 points, HfOil would be disappointed.

 

[KingKhron]

Ludicrous, in my opinion. Barring injury, just no chance.

 

[KingKhron]

Why are people selling McDavid so short? I keep seeing 80-90 points. He scored 100 points as a not quite physically mature 19 year old, while getting robbed of a bunch of points by refs and teammates missing open nets. I'd be very surprised if he does not score 100+ points this year.

I don't think people are taking into account the likely massive increase in powerplays this year either. Crosby hit 120 because he had 61 PP points and thus 59 even strength ones. McDavid will see a large increase in points this year because of it. I know that Drai will likely also see an increase due to this but I don't think he'll see the increase of McDavid at all. This thread kind of stuns me actually. McDavid is one of the most impressive players to ever come into this league and Drai is more in the Thornton and Kopitar level(hopefully). This is like comparing Gretzky to Messier or Kurri. It's just not close.

 

[tiger_80]

I don't think people are taking into account the likely massive increase in powerplays this year either. Crosby hit 120 because he had 61 PP points and thus 59 even strength ones. McDavid will see a large increase in points this year because of it. I know that Drai will likely also see an increase due to this but I don't think he'll see the increase of McDavid at all. This thread kind of stuns me actually. McDavid is one of the most impressive players to ever come into this league and Drai is more in the Thornton and Kopitar level(hopefully). This is like comparing Gretzky to Messier or Kurri. It's just not close.

I don't think Draisaitl in Thornton's league. I think Thornton's struggles and his decline in recent years obscured the fact that in his prime he was a consistent 100 point centerman, who was an absolute monster on the power play and in terms of driving possessions. If he managed to win 1 or 2 cups, he'd be consdered a generational player, like Malkin and Ovechkin, if not Crosby.

 

[booyakasha]

I don't think Draisaitl in Thornton's league. I think Thornton's struggles and his decline in recent years obscured the fact that in his prime he was a consistent 100 point centerman, who was an absolute monster on the power play and in terms of driving possessions. If he managed to win 1 or 2 cups, he'd be consdered a generational player, like Malkin and Ovechkin, if not Crosby.

Malkin and Ovechkin aren't generational.

 

[Arctic Fox]

Malkin and Ovechkin aren't generational.

Malkin was leading Pittsburgh in several categories before the SC finals. Without him the Penns would be a shell of their self. Players like Malkin and Draisailtl can take you to the SCF. There is a reason why Crosby+Malkin works so well while Ovechkin doesn't. The Oilers with McD+Drai effectively follow the Penn's model.

 

[KingKhron]

I don't think Draisaitl in Thornton's league. I think Thornton's struggles and his decline in recent years obscured the fact that in his prime he was a consistent 100 point centerman, who was an absolute monster on the power play and in terms of driving possessions. If he managed to win 1 or 2 cups, he'd be consdered a generational player, like Malkin and Ovechkin, if not Crosby.

I hesitated to put his name in there really because he was an amazing player who won the Art Ross and Drai will never do that. One of the best passers in the recent generation of players.

 

[Laineux]

I don't think Draisaitl in Thornton's league. I think Thornton's struggles and his decline in recent years obscured the fact that in his prime he was a consistent 100 point centerman, who was an absolute monster on the power play and in terms of driving possessions. If he managed to win 1 or 2 cups, he'd be consdered a generational player, like Malkin and Ovechkin, if not Crosby.

Thornton is great, but not really even close to Crosby as a talent. Definitely a higher end superstar though and arguably the best of the last 15 years after Crosby/Malkin/Ovechkin.

Though Draisaitl coming even close to Thornton as a player is really far-fetched.

 

[VainGretzky]

Thornton is great, but not really even close to Crosby as a talent. Definitely a higher end superstar though and arguably the best of the last 15 years after Crosby/Malkin/Ovechkin.

Though Draisaitl coming even close to Thornton as a player is really far-fetched.

How do you figure Draisait'ls 1st 3 seasons in the league better than Jumbo Joes were all 3 of them

 

[Aerchon]

This thread is pretty silly imo but ill bite. Ive been wanting that big strong center on the Oilers forever it seems like. Leon has come along and fits the bill. Currently my favorite Oiler by a considerable margin. There have been many comparisons to Leon and Malkin by the media. As much as I love the player he isnt Malkin level now and most likely isn't going to reach those hieghts. However, he is only 21 and just getting noticeably better every year. He "could" end up Malkin or better. I would also think Thornton level in his prime is over the top although he certainly shares some skillsets with Jumbo Joe.

Where I think Leon fits in best for comparisons is Kopitar and Toews. For points and play thats the level of guy I see Leon reaching consistently in his career. An obviously great skilled two way strong center who can handle the physicality of the playoffs.

With McDavid being Kane level or higher in terms of points I thinks unlikely Leon will out produce McDavid short of injuries being factor, but it is possible.

A couple interesting things about this:

-Just how crazy lucky we are to have two insanely talented forwards like Leon and Conner.
-Leon still makes less than Kopitar, Toews, or Malkin.
-Leon is still very young and just entering his prime where all those players above are in decline to some extent.