Proposal: Dowd for Kakko
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Djp
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Dowd does not have that value even though Kskko is a bit of a bust given draft position.
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a 4th liner doesn't get a recent 2nd overall pick. I don't care how good that 4th liner is and how poorly that 2nd overall pick is playing. It simply doesn't happen.
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Caps are the ones taking the chance here, huh?
Possibly one of the worst proposals I've ever seen on this forum
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kakko is ten years younger, talent and upside is there and has shown flashes of being elite defensively. the emergence of brodzinski (also younger and cheaper) - dowd becomes a redundancy and has loads less value than kakko. pretty brutal proposal.
if the rangers move for a center it needs to be for an upgrade like henrique etc.
if the rangers move for a center it needs to be for an upgrade like henrique etc.
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Rangers fans, no real disagreement with your evaluation of the proposal.
Would adding Mantha at 50% retention change anything? Nothing else from the NYR side.
Just curious. Not actually sure if Kakko is the asset I'd target though I probably wouldn't refuse.
Would adding Mantha at 50% retention change anything? Nothing else from the NYR side.
Just curious. Not actually sure if Kakko is the asset I'd target though I probably wouldn't refuse.
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While Kakko has nowhere near the value he had a year ago, Dowd’s presence doesn’t make up for losing Kakko in the lineup. If they’re going to move Kakko for a veteran type, it’ll be in a deal for a David Perron type of player. Someone who can contribute on the scoresheet, who’s also hard to play against. Someone who solidifies their PP. Even at that, Detroit would still likely have to add a future asset.
It’s nothing against Dowd, but Kakko isn’t a player on the verge of being scratched. He’s still a solid depth piece, with more upside of making an impact than Dowd would be.
He’s a great story, but we have to keep things in perspective.
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This is it the worst trade proposal I have ever seen on here that was serious. Congrats! you did it.
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Even if this was fair value for the Rangers (it isn't), how does it help us to trade a player off our roster to fill a hole? We'd just be creating another hole. We need to add a RW as it is. Try to employ some common sense at least before you propose stuff like this.
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Ranger fans probably took a similar position on Dylan McIlrath around 2012.
The OP is not off on his assessment of Laviolette and his loyalty towards veterans that he knows. Capitals fans experienced this first hand with him, i.e. Matt Irwin and Craig Smith, players that he had when he was the HC in Nashville he wanted and had on the Caps. Wouldn't surprised me that Gustafsson is with the Rangers now because Lavy had him last season in Washington. Capitals fans became frustrated with him relying more on the veterans rather then giving opportunities to the young players last year. Maybe he's changed and Kakko will get his opportunities and flourish under Laviolette's tutelage. All I know is that the young players on the Capitals that Lavy jerked around are beginning to develop and show their skills, i.e. McMichael.
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would be like the rangers trying to get leonard and cristall for like bobby trivigno.
would be like the rangers trying to get leonard and cristall for like bobby trivigno.
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This deal is shit for the Rangers, but what's funny is that this kind of deal is actually not unprecendented:
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Isles Deal Niederreiter To Wild For Clutterbuck
The New York Islanders fulfilled a need by adding rugged forward Cal Clutterbuck in a trade with the Minnesota Wild and unloaded a bit of a headache in the process. New York and Minnesota worked out a deal Sunday early in the NHL draft that sent Clutterbuck and a third-round pick to the...
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I'm not saying that it's a great deal for the Rangers but at the same time, I honestly don't think Kakko commands nearly as much value as what some think. He's been held up by his draft position for awhile now. If he was drafted in the 4th round, teams would maybe give up a 3rd for him.
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When you approach the trade dead line as we all know there are buyers and there are sellers. Buyers are motivated by the now, that is trying to improve their team for the immediate to make them better for the playoffs and a SC run. Sellers on the other hand are looking at the future, what could make them better perhaps as soon as next season or thereafter. So Rangers fans in the teams current position should be asking themselves who would make the team better now Dowd or Kakko. We are talking about today and the next few months, looking at the future of the two players and their age difference is a non factor in such an analysis.
I'm not supporting the original proposal, rather the one I would go with is Dowd (for what has already been stated about him), Pacioretty (who like Chris Drury is a Connecticut boy and though he has a NMC, he indicated that it'll be a geographical decision for him to waive it as he's indicated that his family is on the east coast, so most likely he would waive it for the Rangers). Caps would further offer to eat 50% of Dowd's contract and take Barclay Goodrow and his albatross contract back. But to do all of this the Capitals would get Kakko along with the Rangers 1st and 2nd round pick this year for taking on Goodrow's contract that we know Rangers and their fans would like to shed.
In essence:
Capitals Dowd and Pacioretty (resulting in about a 2.7 cap hit according to CF, centerman and forward) for Rangers Goodrow and Kakko (5.7 mil in cap according to CF), along with '24 1st and 2nd)
The 2024 draft does not look like a strong one and the likes of Jeff Marek and Elliot Friedman suggest that the quality of players drops significantly after the top 20. Most likely the Rangers first round pick will be 25 or later.
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