Friedman: Dougie Hamilton's agent receives permission to speak to other teams

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[SI90]

Interesting. Doesn’t exactly rule out a return to Carolina. I respect the Canes tactic here.

 

[Boom Boom Apathy]

Interesting. Doesn’t exactly rule out a return to Carolina. I respect the Canes tactic here.

With the expansion draft, it kind makes sense in a twisted way.

Carolina: Here's what we think is a fair contract.
Hamilton: I think I can get a lot more on the open market.
Carolina: We'll give you permission to find out now, before the expansion draft. After you see what you can get, we'll talk again. If we agree to a deal, we'll sign it right after the expansion draft. If we are too far apart, we'll look to trade your rights.

 

[Skinnyjimmy08]

As good as he is, I don't mind Canes letting him walk if it comes to it.. he's gonna get a crap load of money and maybe it's smarter Canes target someone cheaper as a UFA or trade target

Hes that awkward 28ish years old where he will get a massive longterm contract that will be regrettable half way thru the deal

 

[Henkka]

Seattle could be after him. Didn't Ron Francis get him to Carolina?

 

[RibFrabcus]

Seattle could be after him. Didn't Ron Francis get him to Carolina?

No it was DW before the 18-19 season.

 

[Big Daddy Cane]

Seattle could be after him. Didn't Ron Francis get him to Carolina?

No. He was a Dundon/Waddell stamp on the roster.

 

[HogtownSabresfan]

Here's a prediction. The Pegulas will jump in with no chance in hell of him signing in Buffalo and raise the cost for someone else.

 

[Ryuji Yamazaki]

Welcome to the Panthers

 

[Boom Boom Apathy]

Here's a prediction. The Pegulas will jump in with no chance in hell of him signing in Buffalo and raise the cost for someone else.

Not sure how that raises the cost for someone else though. If Dougie says "Ok, Buffalo is offering me X so you need to match it", I'm guessing teams will just call his bluff as they would know there's no chance in hell.

 

[Lunatik]

With the expansion draft, it kind makes sense in a twisted way.

Carolina: Here's what we think is a fair contract.
Hamilton: I think I can get a lot more on the open market.
Carolina: We'll give you permission to find out now, before the expansion draft. After you see what you can get, we'll talk again. If we agree to a deal, we'll sign it right after the expansion draft. If we are too far apart, we'll look to trade your rights.

I think this is also a result of the new CBA which has both eliminated the free agent courting period and trading picks with the condition of a player signing.

 

[Spring in Fialta]

I like the way the Hurricanes do things.

 

[unicornpig]

Come to la dougie 7x7

 

[GoldiFox]

I'm trying to imagine what kind of trade value a team would assign to locking him in early with potentially an 8th year.

Would a team like Florida, Edmonton, or Winnipeg give up their late 1st? Maybe some team has a player swap in mind?

 

[Blueline Bomber]

Come to la doggie 7x7

If Hamilton would accept 7, he'd have been signed by now. He's apparently looking for Pieterangelo money, and some team out there is going to be desperate/stupid enough to offer him $9 mill.

 

[Bevans]

I'm trying to imagine what kind of trade value a team would assign to locking him in early with potentially an 8th year.

Would a team like Florida, Edmonton, or Winnipeg give up their late 1st? Maybe some team has a player swap in mind?

Rangers Acquire Defenseman Adam Fox

Carolina will probably use their last rights trade to set the floor.

 

[HogtownSabresfan]

Not sure how that raises the cost for someone else though. If Dougie says "Ok, Buffalo is offering me X so you need to match it", I'm guessing teams will just call his bluff as they would know there's no chance in hell.

I guess if they want to take the chance. Leafs so overpaid for Babcock it wasn't even funny. Never planned to go to Buffalo in a million years. Not part of cap so maybe they didn't care. But the Pegulas are the most unstable and crazy ownership in the league. Just about anything is possible with them now. I believe. They could trade Eichel one day and offer some FA 40% more than market (at which point they sign.) I seriously consider them that looney, unpredictable or incompetent. Take your pick.

 

[Boom Boom Apathy]

I'm trying to imagine what kind of trade value a team would assign to locking him in early with potentially an 8th year.

Would a team like Florida, Edmonton, or Winnipeg give up their late 1st? Maybe some team has a player swap in mind?

I would be surprised to see anyone offer more than a 3rd or 4th rounder for his rights.

 

[dbaz]

Im guessing they offered something and Hamilton and his agent didnt like it. Carolina probably said see if you can do better and come back to us with it

 

[unicornpig]

If Hamilton would accept 7, he'd have been signed by now. He's apparently looking for Pieterangelo money, and some team out there is going to be desperate/stupid enough to offer him $9 mill.

There's also the possibility he doesn't want to live in Carolina

 

[Boom Boom Apathy]

Rangers Acquire Defenseman Adam Fox

Carolina will probably use their last rights trade to set the floor.

Totally different situation.
1) Fox couldn't sign anywhere when he was traded. His choice was to sign with the team that owned his right (Carolina), or go back to college for 1 more year before becoming a UFA.
2) Fox, once traded would be under the Ranger's team control for many years (once they signed him, which was a foregone conclusion).

So the Rangers's traded 2 seconds to get Fox a year earlier, remove any risk of Fox changing his mind, and getting him under their control and minimizing risk of something happening in NCAA for another year.

This is more like trading Edmundson's rights to MTL for a 5th round pick (last year). Dougie has more value than that, but I'd be surprised if his UFA rights are worth more than a 3rd or 4th.

 

[Lunatik]

Rangers Acquire Defenseman Adam Fox

Carolina will probably use their last rights trade to set the floor.

Not even remotely comparable situations to use that as anything.

 

[Number1RedWingsFan52]

Come to la dougie 7x7

LOL he already turned down 7x7 to stay with Carolina, Noway he's signing that cheaply to go to a Non-Playoff team. try more like 7x9 if not slightly more.

 

[Legion34]

I really like how Carolina does things. Never lets people walk for nothing

 

[Chan790]

I'm trying to imagine what kind of trade value a team would assign to locking him in early with potentially an 8th year.

Would a team like Florida, Edmonton, or Winnipeg give up their late 1st? Maybe some team has a player swap in mind?

I think more value comes from teams potentially being in now (cap space and the Canes ability to take back salary) who couldn't be in on Ham as a pure UFA.