Management Don Sweeney media call - 3/10/21

[Therick67]

Because he wasn’t ranked exclusively at 9....it varied from 8 to 20.

There was some uncertainty surrounding him because of his injury.

The post was deleted calling me stupid...in case you were wondering.

what about Kyle Connor and Travis Konecny? DeBrusk was a reach, he just was..this all happened real time in 2015, it’s not hindsight.

 

[4ORRBRUIN]

Since 2016 we have gotten 5 goals from forwards we have drafted

Some of the experts on this board may not like this post. Sure Sweeney is great

 

[Barnum]

what about Kyle Connor and Travis Konecny? DeBrusk was a reach, he just was..this all happened real time in 2015, it’s not hindsight.

Kind of sorta he was a reach. Slight reach to put it in perspective. In 2014 JDB ripped up the WHL as a winger...we needed a winger to replace the injured Horton and out the door Lucic.

 

[Therick67]

Kind of sorta he was a reach. Slight reach to put it in perspective. In 2014 JDB ripped up the WHL as a winger...we needed a winger to replace the injured Horton and out the door Lucic.

At the end of the day, the guys taken at 16, 17 and 18 are better than the guys the Bruins took 13, 14 and 15....and it’s not really even close..

 

[Therick67]

Some of the experts on this board may not like this post. Sure Sweeney is great

We agree on this one...

 

[TCB]

Because he wasn’t ranked exclusively at 9....it varied from 8 to 20.

There was some uncertainty surrounding him because of his injury.

The post was deleted calling me stupid...in case you were wondering.

I must of missed that, I don't recall anyone calling anyone stupid and I had a post deleted in this thread.

 

[Barnum]

At the end of the day, the guys taken at 16, 17 and 18 are better than the guys the Bruins took 13, 14 and 15....and it’s not really even close..

Agreed....but that is all hindsight which was my first post and also, IT was 6 years ago!

 

[Barnum]

I must of missed that, I don't recall anyone calling anyone stupid and I had a post deleted in this thread.

Well, I got infracted and all of our posts were deleted.

To the mods...we all good.

 

[Therick67]

Agreed....but that is all hindsight which was my first post and also, IT was 6 years ago!

but the players the Bruins took were rated lower than the other players, some by a wide margin. Non Bruins fans/media were critical immediately, not to mention Bruins fans. They screwed up, it’s ok to admit. It doesn’t make you less of a fan.

 

[TCB]

Kind of sorta he was a reach. Slight reach to put it in perspective. In 2014 JDB ripped up the WHL as a winger...we needed a winger to replace the injured Horton and out the door Lucic.

They needed forwards period, particularly centers and that's a GMs job to evaluate properly the talent he has and what talent is available for him to select on draft day and no-matter how you slice it, Sweeney failed in his evaluation.

There were many forwards available who Sweeney passed on who have become stars in this league. Its not hindsight it was black and white back then as soon as he ended his first round selections by saying Zach Senyshyn and 6 years later when Mathew Barzel is going end to end with a high-lite reel goal or Kyle Connor or Brock Boeser are unleashing a one-timer into the back of the net, its become pretty apparent Sweeney failed.

 

[22Brad Park]

2015 has surely defined Sweeney to date.This deadline to me will determine his future in Boston.

 

[MattFromFranklin]

2015 has surely defined Sweeney to date.This deadline to me will determine his future in Boston.

DKH has said that Sweeney is safe, unfortunately. Reading between the lines, if anyone goes it will be Bruce.

 

[chizzler]

Agreed....but that is all hindsight which was my first post and also, IT was 6 years ago!

I get your argument. At the time, the Bruins needs were different than now and people can’t split the two. They only see what’s in front of them. Still, they should have drafted at least two of them and do a reach with one. A project so to speak.

Another thing that I see is that if they did draft those no brainers, they probably would try to change them to 200’ players and they wouldnt see the NHL for a while. It’s not who only, it’s also how your bring them along.

 

[EverettMike]

Not only is this specific case not hindsight, drafting for "need" in the NHL is always dumb. Always. It will never not be dumb to say, "We have centers, so we're good."

Aside from getting those two points completely wrong, still a terrible job by you.

 

[ODAAT]

DKH has said that Sweeney is safe, unfortunately. Reading between the lines, if anyone goes it will be Bruce.

I haven`t liked Butch this season, I understand he`s dealing with kids and with that comes mistakes and growing pains. What I think Butch struggles with his in game adjustments. His cure if you will is little more than shortening the bench which is great but I want to see more. He has been more than just a touch vocal in the media about the vets and kids alike. I dunno, I`m all up for holding players accountable and while I don`t like the fact that doing so in the media these days is considered taboo, it is and he hasn`t held back

Jobs will be assessed if this year ends prematurely or what the B`s feel is prematurely and it might be warranted. I dunno, we`ve had worse GM`s and coaches, President`s too, usually ice a competitive team but for this fan, the heat will come down on one of Butch/Sweeney or Cam and likely warranted to a certain degree

 

[22Brad Park]

DKH has said that Sweeney is safe, unfortunately. Reading between the lines, if anyone goes it will be Bruce.

He fired Clode so firing another coach solves nothing.Its him.

 

[WhalerTurnedBruin55]

I have zero confidence Sweeney is the man to fix this team.

 

[MattFromFranklin]

I have zero confidence Sweeney is the man to fix this team.

Jacobs and Sinden do, though. That's scary.

 

[KrejciMVP]

I have zero confidence Sweeney is the man to fix this team.

10000%

 

[EverettMike]

After making trades to improve the team, if they still get waxed in the first round that's got to be it for him, right?

 

[Mr. Make-Believe]

After making trades to improve the team, if they still get waxed in the first round that's got to be it for him, right?

If the Bruins get waxed in the first round, it won't be Sweeney's fault. He's put the team in a position to win.

Now it's on Cassidy and the players.

 

[BruinDust]

If the Bruins get waxed in the first round, it won't be Sweeney's fault. He's put the team in a position to win.

Now it's on Cassidy and the players.

They have to get healthy first. In particular the Top 3 D-men and Rask.

That to be is the biggest risk at this deadline. To go out and bring in temporary help (like Hall and Reilly) but to never get out of the quicksand that is the injury bug.

On paper when healthy this team appears to be a legit contender. But health is the big X-factor in this season so far. Can we really expect at any point the Bruins will be able to ice a full compliment of players? I doubt it.

 

[Over the volcano]

If the Bruins get waxed in the first round, it won't be Sweeney's fault. He's put the team in a position to win.

Now it's on Cassidy and the players.

The injuries on the back end are just crippling too though. Like what Sweeney did in the big picture, certainly got value, but the all kid defense is playoff suspect even without the injuries.

 

[MattFromFranklin]

The injuries on the back end are just crippling too though. Like what Sweeney did in the big picture, certainly got value, but the all kid defense is playoff suspect even without the injuries.

I wonder if Sweeney is done on the back end?

 

[Mr. Make-Believe]

They have to get healthy first. In particular the Top 3 D-men and Rask.

That to be is the biggest risk at this deadline. To go out and bring in temporary help (like Hall and Reilly) but to never get out of the quicksand that is the injury bug.

On paper when healthy this team appears to be a legit contender. But health is the big X-factor in this season so far. Can we really expect at any point the Bruins will be able to ice a full compliment of players? I doubt it.

Team health isn't Sweeney's fault either. Still won't be on him. If anything, I've been impressed with how well the defence played right up until the tipping point of McAvoy's injury. The position wasn't ignored - it's deep. But it's the top four that's taken the hit and no team can dominate when that's the case.

Rask I'm worried about too. But there again... Halak, Vladar, Swayman. There are options and good ones. Can't blame Sweeney for that.

I'm rambling, but point being... When (if) the Bruins get relatively healthy, they're set.