Don Cherry is a racist tool 'n should be banned on TV

[SenatorArmy*]

Not knowing the difference between two countries that both happen to be playing in a tournament you're commenting on is pretty ignorant, and I can see it being a racist comment as well.

You might not take it as an insult, and think its tongue in cheek, but not everyone will perceive it that way. Making a joke of something, does not mean its inoffensive or 'ok'. I'd get offended if someone said Irish were the same as the English

Racist against what race?

 

[Busboy]

I wouldn't be offended if someone said Americans and Canadians were the same thing. I would think the person was ignorant but I wouldn't choose to be offended.

I think a lot of posters in this thread could use some more exposure to Don so they can loosen up and learn not to be so easily offended. Or just mute the channel for the 5 minutes of air time he gets.

 

[ChocolateLeclaire]

I friggin' LOATHE when people call Don Cherry racist. He's NOT RACIST. Far from it. When I was a little colored kid who decided to play hockey in Manitoba, life was not easy for me. I remember Don coming to our camp, pulling me aside and telling me that "no matter what those idiots in the stands say, you got as much right to play as any kid does." For an 8 year old kid, hearing that from one of hockey's biggest symbols made a huge impact on me.

He's definitely a xenophobe, but he loves this country and all its people, almost to a fault.

 

[NyQuil]

I wouldn't be offended if someone said Americans and Canadians were the same thing. I would think the person was ignorant but I wouldn't choose to be offended.

I think a lot of posters in this thread could use some more exposure to Don so they can loosen up and learn not to be so easily offended. Or just mute the channel for the 5 minutes of air time he gets.

People spend way too much time being outraged about stuff like this.

Canadians and Americans?

Well guess what, we are a lot alike - I've lived overseas for good portions of my life, and that's when you realize how similar you are.

And to people who don't live in North-America, they really don't get the big deal - because it isn't.

 

[Proust*]

You may not like it, but he is a defender of Canadian hockey, and Canadian kids playing hockey.

A very marginalized minority that needs "defending", course...

 

[Proust*]

He's definitely a xenophobe, but he loves this country and all its people, almost to a fault.

How can one be a xenophobe and love all of the people of a new-World, multicultural country like Canada?

In reality, he was probably worried you'd join a gang and shoot up his fence if you failed at hockey.


PS. I love Don Cherry. He's a brilliant character. The real man spends hours in his library smoking joints and reading book reviews.

 

[Alfieghetti]

he loves this country and all its people, almost to a fault.

Not quite

 

[Proust*]

People spend way too much time being outraged about stuff like this.

Canadians and Americans?

Well guess what, we are a lot alike - I've lived overseas for good portions of my life, and that's when you realize how similar you are.

And to people who don't live in North-America, they really don't get the big deal - because it isn't.

And hell, the stuff that used to differentiate us, like our foreign policy and environmental record, are long gone, so to Europeans, we're pretty much thinner and slightly less boorish Americans.

 

[cage]

I can only imagine how Cherry would react if a European commentator said "same thing" referring to Canadian and Americans people

 

[NyQuil]

And hell, the stuff that used to differentiate us, like our foreign policy and environmental record, are long gone, so to Europeans, we're pretty much thinner and slightly less boorish Americans.

Meh, even in the past, the wide differences we perceived between our policy and the US were pretty insignificant compared with the socialist leanings of Western Europe.

We like to think we are centrists, but among the Western developed world, we've always been fairly right-wing.

 

[DrEasy]

If he was on Fox Sports I wouldn't care, but it bugs me that he's on CBC's payroll.

He'd be a great fit for Fox Sports.

 

[senators2007]

I am sick of his hating and racial comments towards Non-Canadian hockey players and people in general. It look so disgraceful, insulting and unprofessional.

As some of you did saw his 1st intermission in Canada vs Norway game where he called Norwegians as Finns and on being corrected by Ron Maclean that they are not Finns, rather Norwegians. Don Cherry ignorantly and blatantly responded saying "same thing"

I mean are you ****ing serious? The whole world is watching and you're going to sit their, looking stupid and disrespect a whole country and more so, make Canada look bad?

Honestly, how the eff does he have a job on internationally broadcast TV?

ROFL, wow, are you seriously this angry about that? What did you expect, the guy is an old timer and any country in Scandinavia might as well be the same thing, it's not a big deal.

 

[Big Papi]

Racist against what race?

Norwegians and Finns do not share the same ethnic or linguistic charateristics.
Finnish language is 'similar' to Hungarian, and is very very different from that of Norway or Sweden, which are Germanic based. Finns do not have the same ethnic origins as Norwegians. Therefore they are two different races.

a side note, the origins of the Finnish people is quite debated and is a pretty interesting read if you're so inclined.

 

[Ice-Tray]

Canada was founded by the French and then the English came and defeated France for domination over it, France and England aren't countries in Asia, they are Europeans.

Read the post I quoted again.... Surprisingly I don't see any Norsemen in your post either...

And just for kicks so you know, Canada was founded by the British, the French used it an area on the St Lawrence River as a trading outpost and never had designs on a colony until the Brits arrived. Even afterwards they were far more focused on sending trade good home than creating a permanent settlement.

It was an easy English 'victory' here, made somewhat difficult by a much more evenly matched war in Europe.

 

[senators2007]

I'd also like to add that political correctness is very dangerous to the freedom of a society. So stop getting your knickers in a knot and enjoy the hockey, those Scandinavian teams are pretty tough as we shall find out on Sunday.

 

[Ice-Tray]

Cherry's father was in the military. That is why is a heavy supporter.

We should all be heavy supporters of the military, shame on you if you aren't. You have a problem with an engagement? It's the politicians that deserve your ire, not the people who make it their job to do the dirty work.

So easy to point fingers from your desk, at least point them at the right people for Christ's sake...

 

[Ice-Tray]

He stands up for all Canadians and Canadian hockey players, unless they're french Canadians that is.

Things would be different if they could learn to drive properly.....

 

[Big Papi]

We should all be heavy supporters of the military, shame on you if you aren't. You have a problem with an engagement? It's the politicians that deserve your ire, not the people who make it their job to do the dirty work.

So easy to point fingers from your desk, at least point them at the right people for Christ's sake...

the military and sports should kept separate imo


Dear Ron MacLean. Dear Coach’s Corner. I’m writing in order for someone to explain to my niece the distinction between these mandatory pre-game group rites of submission and the rallies at Nuremburg. Specifically the function the ritual serves in conjunction with what everybody knows is in the end a kid’s game. I’m just appealing to your sense of fair play when I say she’s puzzled by the incessant pressure for her to not defy the collective will, and yellow ribboned lapels, as the soldiers inexplicably rappel down from the arena rafters (which, if not so insane, would be grounds for screaming laughter). Dear Ron MacLean, I wouldn’t bother with these questions if I didn’t sense some spiritual connection. We may not be the same but it’s not like we’re from different planets: we both love this game so much we can hardly ****ing stand it. Alberta-born and prairie-raised. Seems like there ain’t a sheet of ice north of Fargo I ain’t played. From Penhold to the Gatineau, every fond memory of childhood that I know is somehow connected to the culture of this game. I can’t just let it go. But I guess it comes down to what kind of world you want to live in, and if diversity is disagreement, and disagreement is treason, well don’t be surprised if we find ourselves reaping a strange and bitter fruit that sad old man beside you keeps feeding to young minds as virtue. It takes a village to raise a child but just a flag to raze the children until they’re nothing more than ballast for fulfilling a madman’s dream of a paradise where complexity is reduced to black and white. How do I protect her from this cult of death?

 

[source]

I like Don Cherry for hockey night in Canada but I don't think he should be covering international events. Canadians know he's a relic of a bygone era and that his opinions on foreigners are still of the mid 20th century (and thus should be dismissed). He's not representative of modern Canadians.

As a matter of fact, I'm pretty sure there was an article about Don himself not wanting to cover international events in Sochi.

Post #8. I agree with this.

Keep Coach's Corner going as long as possible. It's great. I don't care for Cherry outside of that segment, but that is just my opinion from an entertainment standpoint.

 

[Ice-Tray]

It for sure doesn't reflect good on you that there is an audience for someone like that.

On the other hand threads like this popping up proves that not all over there are that kind of people.

Says the Swede.....

When it comes to hockey, what Canada thinks and does, shouldn't reflect 'good' on us from the viewpoint of Sweden. We are international rivals in the sport, and Canada has happily trained the world over to compete against us. That's fine, but don't come talking trash when some of us get annoyed by it.

If it wasn't for NHL money and development, we wouldn't have European player in the CHL. I'm not saying we shouldn't have them, but it does nothing for Hockey Canada, and everything for developing players for the NHL.

Cherry veers off course sometimes, and even I cringe sometimes at what he says, but from a nationalist hockey standpoint I tend to agree. We've made the rest of the world better at hockey, and they feel like they can rub our nose in it when they beat us... Aaaaaannd, role into a Cherry thread and tell us that we look bad calling them out for it... The typical Canadian says "oops, sorry" Hahahaha

His views on quebecers is definitely dated and generalized, but not abnormal for his age, he does actually like French players specifically. You just take what you want from it, and the rest is your grumpy grandfather ranting, the French have no problems doing likewise...

He calls out anyone and everyone where he feels a wrong has been done, he's kinda fair that way.

 

[source]

Meh, even in the past, the wide differences we perceived between our policy and the US were pretty insignificant compared with the socialist leanings of Western Europe.

We like to think we are centrists, but among the Western developed world, we've always been fairly right-wing.

Fairly right wing? Government spending in Canada accounts for 40% of GDP. That is massive.

You have a sprinkling of European countries that spend more, but look at how our government spends our money. Very little goes to the military, for instance. Lots of it is spent on health care.

 

[Ice-Tray]

Not knowing the difference between two countries that both happen to be playing in a tournament you're commenting on is pretty ignorant, and I can see it being a racist comment as well.

You might not take it as an insult, and think its tongue in cheek, but not everyone will perceive it that way. Making a joke of something, does not mean its inoffensive or 'ok'. I'd get offended if someone said Irish were the same as the English

The thing is...

Suck it up buttercup.

He's not in the business of caring about the sensibilities of the Norwegians or Finns. He's also not ignorant of the differences, he just doesn't care for the purposes of the discussion. They are the enemy, and they're all the same. Denying them their specificity is a side jab that he gives to the competition, and I like it. I wonder if other nations talk smack about us in terms of hockey, and I wonder if they have citizens that cry about it.

It's a Canadian-centric broadcast during the Olympics, the fact that people care about a minor jab at other nations this much is an embarrassment.

As for the Irish/English analogy... Priceless... The Irish are always openminded and PC when it comes to talk of the Brits...

 

[MakeOttawaGreatAgain]

I agree. What a joke.

Costa Rica and Mexico? Same thing! Ireland and Scotland? Same thing! Japan and South Korea? Same thing!

Actually, at least those countries you just mentioned are at least similar in language and culture... Finland isn't even Indo-European. It's essentially like comparing a German with a Mongol... They just happen to be snowy white people.

 

[Ice-Tray]

A very marginalized minority that needs "defending", course...

Not really, like it or lump it their a source or national pride.

It's all niche when talking about hockey, but it's a very important subject in Canada, and really, why shouldn't it be?

Life can't all be about rainforests and tarsands...

 

[Ice-Tray]

And hell, the stuff that used to differentiate us, like our foreign policy and environmental record, are long gone, so to Europeans, we're pretty much thinner and slightly less boorish Americans.

Hahahahahaha, pretty much, except Washington State, they're pretty much Canadian.