Does Matthews surpass Marner and Tavares in points this season

[Duke Silver]

As of last night, he was on pace for 99 and he has been slumping.

"A slight decline" =/= "Slumping"

 

[Notsince67]

"A slight decline" =/= "Slumping"

No. Since January, his points have been down to a 72 pt per year pace. His 82 regular season game streak is in the high 90s.

 

[zeke]

15gms is a huge headstart.

but leading the team in PPG and gpg, when the next two guys have played together all year (and while getting less toi than them), really says it all.

 

[Throw More Waffles]

Unless they get injured, I really can't see how he can catch them

 

[Al14]

Unless they get injured, I really can't see how he can catch them

God forbid, there's always the chance that Matthews gets injured again!

 

[Wafflewhipper]

He won't catch either but it will be close between him and Tavares in goals and assists.

Won't catch or pass Marner.

 

[PromisedLand]

make a ppg pole and I will vote yes

 

[moon111]

make a ppg pole and I will vote yes

For the Leafs or the league? Currently 4th.

 

[Sweet Leaf]

So long as the Tavares/Marner line is the #1 match up line facing all the toughest competition, Matty should go to town and take advantage of those match ups and outpoint both go forward. Probably too far back to catch them though.

 

[saffronleaf]

If he's put on a line with Nylander and Kapanen, watch out.

 

[authentic]

I think he can pass Tavares in overall pts. Matthews is just heating up. I think he can pass him in pts and goals this season in less games. Proving how worth his contract is.

Personally I think Matthews is the best player on the team. Has had bad luck with injuries his first couple of seasons. But I really think Marner is overrated. I may be wrong, but I don't think Marner adds as much value to the team as Matthews does for the foreseeable future.

Love Marner, think he's a great player. But not the best on the team as some make him out to be.

Remember how many games Matthews has played this season, and who he has played with consistently as wingers. Marleau? Kapanen? Johnsson? A couple with Nylander? A couple with Brown? Ennis?

And now look at his points!!!! Goals!!!!

In how much ice-time?

Now look at Marner, who he has played with all season. How many minutes he gets.

Its not even a debate as to who the best player on the team is. Matthews is every day and twice on Sundays

Marner has been our best player this season, sorry. He's been almost consistently the better player at both ends of the ice since the first 7 games other than the odd game here and there. Matthews was better before and should be better going forward, but it's undeniable Marner has been #1 for us this season.

 

[HOF Paul Henderson]

Marner has been our best player this season, sorry. He's been almost consistently the better player at both ends of the ice since the first 7 games other than the odd game here and there. Matthews was better before and should be better going forward, but it's undeniable Marner has been #1 for us this season.

Tavares has made him look pretty great. But it’s a team sport after all.

 

[authentic]

Tavares has made him look pretty great. But it’s a team sport after all.

Other way around you mean?

 

[Stephen]

Marner has been our best player this season, sorry. He's been almost consistently the better player at both ends of the ice since the first 7 games other than the odd game here and there. Matthews was better before and should be better going forward, but it's undeniable Marner has been #1 for us this season.

Actually, what I find about Marner is he often escapes the harshest criticisms and when he has a quiet night people just don't notice it. I think there's a combination of well deserved good will in general, but he also doesn't stand out at you like an under performing 6'4" center might.

 

[Nithoniniel]

Actually, what I find about Marner is he often escapes the harshest criticisms and when he has a quiet night people just don't notice it. I think there's a combination of well deserved good will in general, but he also doesn't stand out at you like an under performing 6'4" center might.

Yeah. It's really not at all clear who has been the better player this year, and I agree that Marner never seem to get criticized. I'd say that Matthews was the better of the two tonight yet I've seen a whole bunch of comments about how bad his game was and not one comment on how Marner had maybe his worst game of the season.

 

[authentic]

Actually, what I find about Marner is he often escapes the harshest criticisms and when he has a quiet night people just don't notice it. I think there's a combination of well deserved good will in general, but he also doesn't stand out at you like an under performing 6'4" center might.

He hasn't been good the last little while here, but honestly he's had more A games or close to it than anyone on the team this year, no question at all.

 

[authentic]

Yeah. It's really not at all clear who has been the better player this year, and I agree that Marner never seem to get criticized. I'd say that Matthews was the better of the two tonight yet I've seen a whole bunch of comments about how bad his game was and not one comment on how Marner had maybe his worst game of the season.

Matthews was better tonight, most games this season he really hasn't been. Lately he's been better though.

Also, did you ever think the reason why people aren't commenting on Marner's bad game is because he hasn't had a lot of them? Food for thought.

 

[HOF Paul Henderson]

Other way around you mean?

Nope

 

[authentic]

Nope

Marner is clearly the better player.

 

[horner]

Tavares has made him look pretty great. But it’s a team sport after all.

You are joking I take it.
Our you don't watch the games.
Wow

 

[horner]

Yeah. It's really not at all clear who has been the better player this year, and I agree that Marner never seem to get criticized. I'd say that Matthews was the better of the two tonight yet I've seen a whole bunch of comments about how bad his game was and not one comment on how Marner had maybe his worst game of the season.

They both sucked tonight.
The whole team sucked.

 

[HOF Paul Henderson]

You are joking I take it.
Our you don't watch the games.
Wow

Being in the right place to take passes and having finish helps good playmakers.

Marner has made Tavares look great too.

 

[BlueForever75]

Where would Matthews be if Nylander missed no time and was on his wing entire year. Where would Matthews be if Marner was on his wing instead of Tavares? Where would Matthews be if he never was injured?

When you take into account who Matthews has played with in comparison to Marner/Tavares together entire year. It's obvious who the better player is.

 

[81Leafs50]

Comparing Mathews' forst 3 seasons to Kucherov's.

Matthews has more goals and points in less games.

Nikita Kucherov
Season	Games Played	Goals	Assists	Points
2013-2014	52	9	9	18
2014-2015	82	29	36	65
2015-2016	77	30	36	66
Totals	211	68	81	149
Auston Matthews
Season	Games Played	Goals	Assists	Points
2016-2017	82	40	29	69
2017-2018	62	34	29	63
2018-2019	45	28	26	66	(partial stats, season ongoing)
Totals	189	102	84	198

[TBODY] [/TBODY]

 

[Mess]

Now that Matthews is about to pass Reilly in points into 3rd on the Leafs. How many of you believe he has an opportunity to catch Tavares and Marner next? How sweet would it be for the Leafs if this actually happens? Could mean less dollars to Marner if it does happen.

I personally think that he will catch Tavares, but to little time to catch Marner. But will be impressive how close he gets with less games played.

Thoughts

Matthews has played 14 less games than MM and JT, so it should be difficult to imagine catching them. IMO

If he does not sure if that speaks to how great AM is or what's wrong with JT and MM.