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For me it would depend on the how.
How do you address it?
You address it by only icing a team in the playoffs that is cap compliant. Players who would be inactive for a game would not count against the cap.
How do you do the math on that?
Is each player's cap hit pro-rated per game?
So if the salary cap is $83.5M / 82 games = $1,018,292.68 per game, and the sum total of your players can't exceed that? I don't think that quite works given creativity of trades and stuff. So what else makes it work?
Going by their AAV would be the fairest way to do it. This way, if one of your top players goes on LTIR during the season, the team can replace them with a good player. But when the LTIR player comes back for the playoffs, that team shouldn't benefit over the other teams who managed to keep their players healthy during the regular season.
It seems reasonable I guess.
In that instance they are benching their way back to the cap? Like they might have to bench a few million worth of players?
It’s calculated daily, about 187 days.Is each player's cap hit pro-rated per game?
While I agree to an extent, I also don't want to see the NHL get to an MLB stage where some teams are basically glorified farm systems for the Yankees and DodgersIt's not even that teams like Vegas and Tampa should be punished for their cap circumvention - it's actually pretty impressive how they adapt to find loopholes in the way it's written. If anything, they should be lauded for their resourcefulness.
I think it's moreso a testament to how much better the sport would be for everyone involved - fans, franchises, players, etc - if there wasn't a hard cap in place that only serves to stifle creativity and opportunity. I understand why it exists from the owners' POV, but in regards to how the league operates, the hard cap is one of the dumbest, most mind numbing things in sports. ****ing brutal system
Don't like that, encourages guys to play through injuries late in the seasonJust an idea.
If you are on LTIR between trade deadline and the end of the year. Disqualifies you from round 1 of playoffs.
I like this approach.The solution is quite simple: Keep the salary cap in the post season, with a "twist". Your roster can be over the salary cap, but for any particular game, the active players for that game have to be under the cap.
Fair, but what’s happening now is that it encourages guys to not play even if they are healthy.While I agree to an extent, I also don't want to see the NHL get to an MLB stage where some teams are basically glorified farm systems for the Yankees and Dodgers
Don't like that, encourages guys to play through injuries late in the season
If they are on LTIR for a long time, them coming back exactly on the first game of playoffs are really low (if honest). Unless of course they are kept longer on LTIR due to cap reasons, which we see all the time, and could have come back 1-2 games earlier or more.That's a load of crap.
What if its someone who was on LTIR long before the trade deadline? Their team gets screwed over now?
Also the NHLPA will never agree to any measure that prevents players from playing.
The problem with your argument is Kucherov wasn’t good enough to play in the playoffs either - he cut his recovery short and played injured precisely because it was the playoffs. So all you accomplish with your proposed rule is forcing guys with legitimate injuries who may be able to play at some point in the postseason (even if it’s not until the Finals should their team make it that far) to cut their recoveries even shorter in order to be eligible to play should they recover in time. In practice you’ll have more guys playing who really shouldn’t, and others who are still unable even to skate dressing but not playing and forcing their teammates to play shorthanded; the result will be more injuries.The way I see it. If you are good enough to play in the playoffs (tougher hockey)you are good enough to play two days before the playoffs in usually meaningless games. Forces your team to take that into account for the trade deadline if they have to dress you one game during the season.
Yeah, it’s not like an ultra-competitive elite athlete would ever cut his recovery short and play (clearly) injured in the playoffs.Was just a coincidence that Kucherov missed the regular season in 20/21 and was ready for game 1 of the playoffs (said nobody ever).
Here’s where it gets tricky though: the Vegas/Chicago cap circumvention issue aside, because cap space accrues over the course of a season teams routinely add players at the deadline whose full cap hits they could not afford had those players been on their rosters from the beginning of the season. I agree in principle with some sort of cap for postseason rosters to prevent cheating, but it’s difficult to see how you can do that without also killing the current TDL paradigm.Totally agree salary cap should count in the playoffs
I do think there's something to be done about it just personally think that opens up a new problem in itself. I think the on ice roster needing to be cap compliant in playoffs is probably the best way to at least mitigate the issue without creating another oneFair, but what’s happening now is that it encourages guys to not play even if they are healthy.
The way I see it. If you are good enough to play in the playoffs (tougher hockey)you are good enough to play two days before the playoffs in usually meaningless games. Forces your team to take that into account for the trade deadline if they have to dress you one game during the season.