Do you think of Tavares as a goal scorer?

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  1. Dekes For Days Registered User

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    Mackinnon: 15 goals @ 6.3m cap hit
    Donskoi: 15 goals @ 3.9m cap hit

    Mackinnon cap hit cost per goal = 420k
    Donskoi cap hit cost per goal = 260k
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    Barkov: 16 goals @ 5.9m cap hit
    Verhaegae: 17 goals @ 1.0m cap hit

    Barkov cap hit cost per goal = 369k
    Verhaegae cap hit cost per goal = 59k
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    Couturier: 11 goals @ 4.3m cap hit
    Farabee: 14 goals @ 0.925m cap hit

    Couturier cap hit cost per goal = 391k
    Farabee cap hit cost per goal = 66k

    So as you can see by my expert analysis, three of the best contracts in the entire league are actually bad. :teach2:

    #thismathisaMess
     
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    Absolutely just look at his career numbers, I feel people are quick to forget that he scored a career high 47 goals with us in 2018-19, he was a steady 30+ goal guy for his 9 seasons with NYI as well.

    Tavares would be a #1 centre on pretty much any NHL team, we're so incredibly lucky to have the wealth of C depth that we have with Matthews, Tavares, Spezza, Thornton, Kerfoot and Galchenyuk all being guys who can fill the centre for us.
     
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    Definitely a goal scorer but i think people are focussing on the recent play.
    (65 points in 82 games, @11M)

    We knew he wouldn't be worth his AAV until the end of his contract. Here’s hoping it’s a blip and he doesn’t continue declining at this rate
     
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    Heating up just in time for the playoffs
     
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    I view Tavares as a jack of all trades. He can be a grinder/shutdown center. He can score and be a playmaker. He's starting to heat up at the right time too. Never gets down on himself and just keeps playing his game.
     
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    Yes, he's a goalscorer -- but not in the same sense as Auston Matthews.

    Matthews is a distance scorer / sniper. You give him the puck in open ice with a goalie moving or screened, and there's a good chance it's going in the net, especially with his quick release.

    Tavares has always been a "nose for the net" scorer -- picking up the garbage, screens, deflections, etc; somewhat similar to JVR. If they can find the right winger for him & Nylander -- somebody that going to be first in on the forecheck, and win puck battles, that trio could be extremely dangerous given Nylander's ability to control the puck with space.
     
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    I haven't had an issue with him too much. Usually with Tavares, it's not a work ethic issue when he's off. It's an execution issue. Lately, he's been fantastic.
     
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    he has been the leafs best and most consistent player for over a month now.
    and frankly ill chalk up half of his shit games this year because he had jimmy vesey as a linemate.
     
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    He’s never had blinding speed, but he plays a high iq strong positional game with quick hands and a good shot - He’s not the flashiest but he’s very effective.

    Some might disagree, but I honestly can see his game aging pretty well
     
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    WTF happened to him? Not long ago, he looked like he was ready to go to Robidas island. This morning on my local radio, I heard that he had 14 goals (one behind Hyman, same as MM & Nylander ) before last night's game . Now, he has 16 and is second in goals.
     
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    He’s finally converting on his chances.
     
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    Bad contract now, will be worse later
     
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    best player on the team the last 5 or so games, still elite whether people want to admit or not
     
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    Strange time to mention this when he's performing well.
     
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    It doesn’t matter what he did a few years ago. What matters is what he is contributing now and how much cap space he is burning.
    He would be a number 1 centre on many teams but I doubt he would getb11 million from them
     
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    He's scoring at like 4 points below his career average pace and given his level of play the last few games don't blink if he easily surpasses it.

    Yes Tavares is an excellent scorer.
     
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    The past few games he's scored a couple of goals using that wrist shot where he whips the puck straight up like a tennis ball in floor hockey. It's a shot that is definitely more effective when he's able to separate himself from the play or drift into space in the slot. Earlier in the year he was just getting smothered.
     
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    He's always been known as a goal scorer but that doesn't mean he can't do other things. To me it seems he's gotten away from that in a sense since he came here. He tends to pass more now when in fact he should be shooting as he did last night. We are a pass first team (often to our detriment) and hopefully he'll get back to shooting when he should. We need that...badly.
     
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    He’s okay but he’s not a 11 million dollar player. 7? Yup. 8? Maybe. 11? Nope! Not on a cash strapped contender anyways
     
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    Okay you believe what you want.
     
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    He's got an easy game to slip onto LW if his skating takes a hit, I can see him bulking up a bit and becoming an absolute nightmare on the boards and in front of the net. You can keep him in the 30G/PPG range through the end of his contract as #1LW and have Nylander play 2C.
     
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    I'm not sure if I believe this is possible but I sure want to.
     
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    Turned out that John Tavares is good at hockey.

    Shocker of a twist.
     

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