To me its all the luck of the draw, where we are in the standings means nothing, obviously last year is a perfect example of that.
Easily? He was in a 3 way tie for 22nd in assists last year. I'm not saying he's a bad play-maker, and you could even make an argument that he's close to or in the top 5...but easily? I have trouble agreeing with that.
Silly logic. Most teams don't win the cup period, so of course most teams that sit at or near the top of the least for most of the season don't win the cup. The important thing is that their chances are better than the teams that are below them.Conversely, most teams that sit at or near the top of the league for most of the season - don't win the cup.
Honestly, I think this team's D and goaltending are way too good and we'll be good for a long time as a result. Even if the Sedins regress into second line players, this team could probably still be effective playing a checking a defensive style.The young guys are going to determine how long the window stays open but as long as the Sedins are elite players we'll be contenders. Gillis has a lot of really good hockey players locked up to great contracts.
Honestly, I think this team's D and goaltending are way too good and we'll be good for a long time as a result. Even if the Sedins regress into second line players, this team could probably still be effective playing a checking a defensive style.
Honestly, I think this team's D and goaltending are way too good and we'll be good for a long time as a result. Even if the Sedins regress into second line players, this team could probably still be effective playing a checking a defensive style.
I agree. The other thing that nobody seems to consider is that we get better. Our team is oldish but nobody should start regressing in the next few seasons imo. Our lineup is a 3rd line centre and 2nd line RW away from being sick imo. Stacked. If two of Kassian, Jensen and Schroeder can develop into those roles... watch out.
The important thing is that their chances are better than the teams that are below them.
Absolutely. If that happened, in all trade discussions, I would just be like "No, forget it. Just don't do anything and sit on this" for every proposal.I agree. The other thing that nobody seems to consider is that we get better. Our team is oldish but nobody should start regressing in the next few seasons imo. Our lineup is a 3rd line centre and 2nd line RW away from being sick imo. Stacked. If two of Kassian, Jensen and Schroeder can develop into those roles... watch out.
Why would you compare 7 AND 8 seeds vs. 1 seeds? What if we went with 6-8 vs. 1-3 or 5-8 vs. 1-4 since the lockout? I would imagine the latter would be ahead in terms of success.Not since the lockout.
There have been more 7 and 8 seeds in the SCF than there have been 1 seeds. In particular, our conference has sent as many 8 seeds to the finals as it has sent 1 seeds.
When you look at what seed wins the cup the evidence is pretty clear, even since the lockout:Not since the lockout.
There have been more 7 and 8 seeds in the SCF than there have been 1 seeds. In particular, our conference has sent as many 8 seeds to the finals as it has sent 1 seeds.
Absolutely. If that happened, in all trade discussions, I would just be like "No, forget it. Just don't do anything and sit on this" for every proposal.
When you look at what seed wins the cup the evidence is pretty clear, even since the lockout:
05-06: 2nd (3rd in the league)
06-07: 2nd (3rd in the league)
07-08: 1st (1st in the league)
08-09: 4th (8th in the league)
09-10: 2nd (3rd in the league)
10-11: 4th (7th in the league)
11-12: 8th (13th in the league)
1 team has won without home ice advantage in the 1st round, and they're only the 2nd team to do that since the introduction of the current playoff format. Winning the cup without being a top 8 team in the league was virtually unprecedented until last season which I'll bet will go down as an anomaly.
I feel a lot better about the breeze coming from the window with Edler locked up.
Winning the cup without being a top 8 team in the league was virtually unprecedented until last season which I'll bet will go down as an anomaly.
Getting to the cup as a 7/8 seed (post lockout) happens often enough that I don't consider it an anomaly. Once in the finals, winning is a coin toss. From that I conclude that what the Kings did last year is not, in fact, an anomaly.
I keep reading posts referring to our window to win the Cup being open for 2 or 3 years.
I love the Canucks, and have been following their fortunes from day one, but I doubt that their window is still open.
I love the Sedins, but does anyone seriously believe they are the type of players that can triumph in the playoffs when the refs put their whistles away. The series vs Boston
is strong evidence that this is true.
And then there is Ryan Kesler. He is an injury waiting to happen. And his production has become less for various reasons.
I guess the fact that the L.A. Kings won the Stanley Cup after just making the playoffs show us that the window is still open for our team. But the evidence of the past 2 or 3 years suggests that it is quite unlikely that the Canucks are a serious contender for the Cup.
I hope I'm wrong.