Do the Red Wings break through?

[LEAFANFORLIFE23]

This is an annual poll that I do in the summer and it always includes the Buffalo Sabres and Ottawa Senators, last year almost included Detroit too but I held off for 1 more year year.

Well now that Iliya Samsonov had another meltdown and single handily blew it against Detroit, the Red Wings have 87 points and are tied for the final wildcard spot so I want to know do they do it?

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[ricky0034]

I feel like they have more chance of not making it than making it at this point between the tiebreakers and the PHI/WAS game

the Wings NEED at least 3 points in their 2 remaining games and that's just the minimum, 3 won't be enough if Pittsburgh wins their last 2 or Washington also gets 3 points in their last 2 and even 4 won't be enough if Washington wins their last 2 and the Islanders win at least one of their last two

 

[LEAFANFORLIFE23]

I feel like they have more chance of not making it than making it at this point between the tiebreakers and the PHI/WAS game

the Wings NEED at least 3 points in their 2 remaining games and that's just the minimum, 3 won't be enough if Pittsburgh wins their last 2 or Washington also gets 3 points in their last 2 and even 4 won't be enough if Washington wins their last 2 and the Islanders win at least one of their last two

It's coming down to the last game for both Detroit and Washington what's better than that?

 

[HockeyWooot]

EC WC2 is a wild race, coming down to wire

 

[LEAFANFORLIFE23]

I feel like they have more chance of not making it than making it at this point between the tiebreakers and the PHI/WAS game

the Wings NEED at least 3 points in their 2 remaining games and that's just the minimum, 3 won't be enough if Pittsburgh wins their last 2 or Washington also gets 3 points in their last 2 and even 4 won't be enough if Washington wins their last 2 and the Islanders win at least one of their last two

It's coming down to the last game for both Detroit and Washington what's better than that?

EC WC2 is a wild race, coming down to wire

It is and I LOVE it.

 

[CanadienShark]

I hope they do. I like their current makeup more than the Caps. They could do some damage to a top team.

 

[Uncle Scrooge]

Detroit was my off-season pick of the trio to make it this season, but honestly, I'd like the Pens to make it over them. I want to see Sid and EK in the playoffs.

A promising start, some good stretches, but overall they've been slightly disappointing. Giving up too many goals.

But if it's them or the Caps, then yeah for sure. Anyone but the Caps. Love me some Ovi, but I'd have zero interest to watch that team play in the playoffs.

 

[FriendlyGhost92]

We all know how this ends.

Detroit and Washington are both gonna win, and Detroit's gonna get f***ed because Washington loses more in OT.

 

[CokenoPepsi]

Nope.

I mean I think they will beat Montreal tonight, but also think Washington will win against the Flyers.

They'll also be worse when/if Kane leaves

 

[Golden_Jet]

We all know how this ends.

Detroit and Washington are both gonna win, and Detroit's gonna get f***ed because Washington loses more in OT.

Detroit will lose in that scenario, because they will have less regulation wins, not because they lose less in OT.

 

[norrisnick]

Detroit will los in that scenario, because they will have less regulation wins, not because they lose less in OT.

Explain for the class what happens if just one of the circled losses move one column to the left.

If you're going to be pedantic, make sure that you're in fact countering what was said.

To date Washington has lost 42 games and Detroit has lost 41. Due to the fact that more of Washington's losses occurred in OT, they tied in points. IE "because Washington loses more in OT."

 

[Golden_Jet]

Explain for the class what happens if just one of the circled losses move one column to the left.

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If you're going to be pedantic, make sure that you're in fact countering what was said.

To date Washington has lost 42 games and Detroit has lost 41. Due to the fact that more of Washington's losses occurred in OT, they tied in points. IE "because Washington loses more in OT."

Who cares lol, regulation wins is the first tiebreaker.
There are 7 tie breaker rules, any kind of loss is not part of the 7. So it’s useless information, in regards to who gets in.

First tie breaker Detroit is 4 wins behind, to trigger the second tie breaker.

 

[MikeyMike01]

We all know how this ends.

Detroit and Washington are both gonna win, and Detroit's gonna get f***ed because Washington loses more in OT.

Pretty sure Detroit f***ed themselves by losing 7 games in a row.

 

[nbwingsfan]

It's coming down to the last game for both Detroit and Washington what's better than that?

I mean, already having clinched would be much better IMO as my heart is about to explode from stress but otherwise it is exciting yeah

Nope.

I mean I think they will beat Montreal tonight, but also think Washington will win against the Flyers.

They'll also be worse when/if Kane leaves

While having his moments early on, he’s been hurting the team more than helping the last 7-8 games or so. I think his hip is really starting to bother him because he’s barely skating anymore

 

[strattonius]

Washington is such a snooze I hope Detroit or Pittsburgh get in.

 

[JimmyApples]

lol no. Washington will win tonight and the Wings finish 9th, as they deserve.

 

[nbwingsfan]

Washington is such a snooze I hope Detroit or Pittsburgh get in.

That’s one thing you can’t say about Detroit.

They’ll either be up 4 goals and lose 5-4 or be down 4-1 and score in the last seconds to tie it (and then lose in OT)

lol no. Washington will win tonight and the Wings finish 9th, as they deserve.

You must be absolutely FUMING at the possibility of Detroit making it eh?

How’s the Ottawa >>> Wings predictions working out for you this season again?

 

[Midnight Judges]

The Capitals have roughly a 50% chance of winning tonight haha.

Flip a coin mofos.

 

[FriendlyGhost92]

Who cares lol, regulation wins is the first tiebreaker.
There are 7 tie breaker rules, any kind of loss is not part of the 7. So it’s useless information, in regards to who gets in.

First tie breaker Detroit is 4 wins behind, to trigger the second tie breaker.

NHL logic: It's better to lose games in OT than win games in OT.

 

[Golden_Jet]

NHL logic: It's better to lose games in OT than win games in OT.

Haha, the logic is actually who has more regulation wins, but I don't like the loser points, should be zero for losing in OT or SO imo.

 

[JimmyApples]

That’s one thing you can’t say about Detroit.

They’ll either be up 4 goals and lose 5-4 or be down 4-1 and score in the last seconds to tie it (and then lose in OT)


You must be absolutely FUMING at the possibility of Detroit making it eh?

How’s the Ottawa >>> Wings predictions working out for you this season again?

At the end of the season, neither team will be in the playoffs. The only difference between the Sens and the Wings will be their draft position.

 

[nbwingsfan]

At the end of the season, neither team will be in the playoffs. The only difference between the Sens and the Wings will be their draft position.

Whatever helps you sleep at night

Wings Fans have been watching playoff level and important games all the way to the literal Last game of the season, regardless of tonight’s results.

Ottawa hasn’t had a meaningful game since what? November?

 

[FriendlyGhost92]

Haha, the logic is actually who has more regulation wins, but I don't like the loser points, should be zero for losing in OT or SO imo.

Here's my issue with it, Washington has lost more games in OT than Detroit, which is the only reason they're tied with Detroit. The tiebreaker doesn't include overtime wins, so Washington beats out Detroit.

Essentially, Washington gets rewarded for more of their losses coming in OT while Detroit gets punished for more of their wins coming in OT. That's ass backwards, IMO.

 

[Golden_Jet]

Here's my issue with it, Washington has lost more games in OT than Detroit, which is the only reason they're tied with Detroit. The tiebreaker doesn't include overtime wins, so Washington beats out Detroit.

Essentially, Washington gets rewarded for more of their losses coming in OT while Detroit gets punished for more of their wins coming in OT. That's ass backwards, IMO.

No regulation wins trumps everything, then regulation plus OT wins is the next tiebreaker.

Losses is not listed in any tiebreaker.

Detroit has 31 points gained in extra time, Washington has 27 points in extra time.
Washington wins more in regulation and gets any tiebreaker as they should.

 

[Midnight Judges]

Essentially, Washington gets rewarded for more of their losses coming in OT while Detroit gets punished for more of their wins coming in OT. That's ass backwards, IMO.

Is it?

Closing out a team in regulation is more definitive. OT is more arbitrary. You don't think regulation wins ought to carry some sort of advantage?