Dion Phaneuf - Will he stay or will he go?

[Tyler Biggs*]

I remember one of the last D-man Detroit got from the Leafs, he's now in the HHOF (Larry Murphy)...seems to me he was roundly despised by Leafs fans too

 

[Duke Silver]

Would shock me if the Leafs weren't going after Adrian Kempe in any potential Phaneuf-to-LA deal. They undoubtedly saw a lot of him while paying attention to Nylander with MODO.

"Kempe is a strong, bullish forward that has size, strength and a work ethic to match. He can be tenacious on the forecheck and never misses finishing a check. He has a heavy shot and isn't shy to drive towards the net."

Sounds like a perfect compliment to Nylander.

 

[HamiltonNHL]

Elite pay, Not performing

Elite Paid Dman:
- games over 25, salary over 6 mil AAV.
Ranked worst to first.

 

[yubbers]

 

[burpsalot]

I hope Dion comes back from injury soon. Vancouver needs some D.

 

[CBinTokyo]

Elite Paid Dman:
- games over 25, salary over 6 mil AAV.
Ranked worst to first.

Because you have hired your defensemen to score goals? I'd like to see the same chart for goalies too.

 

[TheLeafsBro]

Elite Paid Dman:
- games over 25, salary over 6 mil AAV.
Ranked worst to first.

Alright cool. So we'll just take Suter for Phaneuf then. Minnesota will go for that, right guys?

 

[Bobs your uncle]

Pretty much a foregone conclusion that he'll be traded by the draft.

I bet he's not. He'll be the leaf captain for a long time yet.

 

[The_Chosen_One]

The entire Phaneuf "debate" is still going nowhere. We still use cap hits being used despite the fact that players are only concerned with salary per. In other words, it's quite foolish to compare a contract which has been circumvented versus one where that's not possible.

Having said that, Phaneuf is still an effective top pairing defenceman. If moved, we need to be patient and consider doing that during the offseason.

 

[WilliamNylander]

Seriously hoping he just shuts it down for the rest of the season.

Let us tank in peace and then move him in the off season if the price is right

 

[hotpaws]

Seriously hoping he just shuts it down for the rest of the season.

Let us tank in peace and then move him in the off season if the price is right

you should have a little more faith in our Captain

he's an experienced and very successful tank commander and i have faith he can lead us again

 

[Suntouchable13]

I bet he's not. He'll be the leaf captain for a long time yet.

Then this team will be in trouble for a long time yet.

 

[ACC1224]

Sorely missed.
Any word yet on his return?

 

[Willchel Marlynder]

LA Kings, with us rebuilding we can afford to take on Richards Contract if they pay us to do so....with a Pick and a good player!

The fans have said countless of times they aren't interested. Im not sure if Lombardi is at that price.

 

[Boxscore]

I could see the Oilers trading for Phaneuf - I'm just not sure how great the return will be. EDM's 2015 1st, Nurse and any of the young forward core are out IMO. It would have to be something like - EDM 2016 1st, Oscar Klefbom for Dion.

 

[hotpaws]

I could see the Oilers trading for Phaneuf - I'm just not sure how great the return will be. EDM's 2015 1st, Nurse and any of the young forward core are out IMO. It would have to be something like - EDM 2016 1st, Oscar Klefbom for Dion.

I can't see Edm on a list of teams he'd accept a trade too . I understand he's from out west but who in their right mind wants to there if they had a choice .

 

[Boxscore]

I can't see Edm on a list of teams he'd accept a trade too . I understand he's from out west but who in their right mind wants to there if they had a choice .

Honestly though - how many teams do you see lining up to acquire Phaneuf with that contract? It's not like Dion is a UFA where he has all the leverage. How many "contenders" can afford that kind of cap hit? So that removes most (if not all) of the top NHL teams. The only teams who will take a chance on Phaneuf (aka: assume that massive cap hit) would be lower teams like the Oilers. Would Dion rather hold the Leafs hostage (when he's not wanted) instead of accepting a trade to another team in Western Canada who really wants him? I guess we'll find out.

 

[Bill Waters*]

Honestly though - how many teams do you see lining up to acquire Phaneuf with that contract? It's not like Dion is a UFA where he has all the leverage. How many "contenders" can afford that kind of cap hit? So that removes most (if not all) of the top NHL teams. The only teams who will take a chance on Phaneuf (aka: assume that massive cap hit) would be lower teams like the Oilers. Would Dion rather hold the Leafs hostage (when he's not wanted) instead of accepting a trade to another team in Western Canada who really wants him? I guess we'll find out.

California or Bust, for Dion. Thats why Nonis is scouting Richards.

 

[Dobber]

Leafs fans need to recognize! Dion is not the problem. Too much money tied up in him for sure but he's not the primary target. Pay attention to what happens next, you will see

 

[81Reasons]

I can't see Edm on a list of teams he'd accept a trade too . I understand he's from out west but who in their right mind wants to there if they had a choice .

Nobody wants to go to Edmonton and Edmonton has shown that they are unwilling or paralyzed with fear to make a trade.

Trade Dion to a Anaheim, or LA and get another first round pick in this years draft.

 

[Boxscore]

California or Bust, for Dion. Thats why Nonis is scouting Richards.

You could be right - but in that scenario, the Leafs will be taking back a nice chunk of salary and term in the deal, instead of full cap-relief, a core prospect and a 1st.

 

[hotpaws]

Honestly though - how many teams do you see lining up to acquire Phaneuf with that contract? It's not like Dion is a UFA where he has all the leverage. How many "contenders" can afford that kind of cap hit? So that removes most (if not all) of the top NHL teams. The only teams who will take a chance on Phaneuf (aka: assume that massive cap hit) would be lower teams like the Oilers. Would Dion rather hold the Leafs hostage (when he's not wanted) instead of accepting a trade to another team in Western Canada who really wants him? I guess we'll find out.

I agree , i don't see many teams interested in him but i also believe Dion doesn't see it this way .

 

[yubbers]

Leafs fans need to recognize! Dion is not the problem. Too much money tied up in him for sure but he's not the primary target. Pay attention to what happens next, you will see

He is 100% the problem. Overpaid, isn't good at his job in any facet anymore and the leader.

 

[Al14]

Leafs fans need to recognize! Dion is not the problem. Too much money tied up in him for sure but he's not the primary target. Pay attention to what happens next, you will see

He sure is the problem! We've barely even missed him while he's been out!

 

[LaCarriere]

Because you have hired your defensemen to score goals? I'd like to see the same chart for goalies too.

it's a stupid chart, no doubt... but find me a chart/stat where the pylon ranks in the positive top 1/3 against those same defenseman and I'll bake you a cookie.