Devils Team Discussion (team/player news and notes) ‎2015 offseason III

[Marshal Rochambeau]

Andrej Sekera? wat

Carolina was cap strapped?

No Carolina wasn't cap strapped so they didn't have to trade Sekara which allowed them to have some more leverage in negotiations. FMASC is saying that cap strapped teams never have to take discounts when trading away good players. The Sekera-Boychuk comparison says the opposite is true.

 

[Richer's Ghost]

RG had posted a list in the Shero thread giving the current Pittsburgh cap number as 73+ million. Not sure who's right there.

that was the 2014 numbers

here is 2015 with 13 players signed they have $11.2M in cap space currently - http://www.hockeybuzz.com/cap-central/team.php?team=PIT

 

[Tretyak 20]

that was the 2014 numbers

here is 2015 with 13 players signed they have $11.2M in cap space currently - http://www.hockeybuzz.com/cap-central/team.php?team=PIT

Well that changes things a little. I doubt they let both Martin and Erhoff walk, though. So they've got about 9-10 million to sign seven players including Erhoff.

I also notice Blake Comeau is a UFA. I wouldn't mind making an offer on him.

 

[Hockey Sports Fan]

I'd take Blake Comeau for cheap, but on this team he's more or less the next Ruutu. We don't have players that can turn guys like him into occasional offensive threats like Malkin could.

But I think signing guys like Blake Comeau is what I'd like to see over the next couple years. I'd rather see Shero give out a bunch of placeholder 1-2 year deals to guys like Erat and Fleischmann than overpay for Stafford and have him around for five years. Pick up guys that would be valuable depth players, sign them to short deals, then if they work out you can move them quickly for picks/younger players to supplement your drafting. If they don't work out, they're gone soon and they likely contributed to higher draft picks in the short term.

If we're gonna give out longer deals, I'd rather see it be for someone like Justin Williams, who at least can be a good mentor/depth player in 3-4 years when you expect to be good again. As it currently stands, I'm worried we're gonna be the ones throwing a ton of money and years at Chris Stewart and Stafford.

 

[MichaelJ]

I'd take Blake Comeau for cheap, but on this team he's more or less the next Ruutu. We don't have players that can turn guys like him into occasional offensive threats like Malkin could.

But I think signing guys like Blake Comeau is what I'd like to see over the next couple years. I'd rather see Shero give out a bunch of placeholder 1-2 year deals to guys like Erat and Fleischmann than overpay for Stafford and have him around for five years. Pick up guys that would be valuable depth players, sign them to short deals, then if they work out you can move them quickly for picks/younger players to supplement your drafting. If they don't work out, they're gone soon and they likely contributed to higher draft picks in the short term.

If we're gonna give out longer deals, I'd rather see it be for someone like Justin Williams, who at least can be a good mentor/depth player in 3-4 years when you expect to be good again. As it currently stands, I'm worried we're gonna be the ones throwing a ton of money and years at Chris Stewart and Stafford.

I'd take Williams on the RW for 3-4 years but no more. He'd still be tradable after 2.

 

[Zajacs Bowl Cut]

Justin Williams is 34 when the season starts

no no no no.

 

[glenwo2]

I'm interested in getting a 28 or under wing that can score without paying full price. Scuderi could become our 3rd pair vet under his contract expires.

Is that the same Scuderi that caused the Major(Bernier) which led to the Devils losing Game 6?


'Cause if so, I want no part of that assclown.

 

[Tretyak 20]

Is that the same Scuderi that caused the Major(Bernier) which led to the Devils losing Game 6?


'Cause if so, I want no part of that assclown.

The idea was for him as a cap dump. Two more years of a mediocre overpaid 3rd pair D to help us land a young scoring winger.

 

[NJDevs26]

In other words someone that'll replace Salvador as the old, slow lightning rod.

 

[GhostofKenKlee]

In other words someone that'll replace Salvador as the old, slow lightning rod.

Yep, he's got an own personal slug to bring along.

 

[HobokenIrish]

If you miss Capgeek.com try this

http://www.generalfanager.com

 

[theoptimist]

It's 2015. Athletes' careers aren't over after the age of 32. On this team, Justin Williams would be a perfect 1RW or 2RW.

(As noted above, he's also tradable after 2).

 

[Marshal Rochambeau]

It's 2015. Athletes' careers aren't over after the age of 32. On this team, Justin Williams would be a perfect 1RW or 2RW.

(As noted above, he's also tradable after 2).

His presence would be welcomed here for a few years as would Soderberg's and Frolik's. None of these players are big minute guys or big scorers but will do fine on a team together. Maybe we even sign Fisher/Vermette for center depth.

 

[Emperoreddy]

His presence would be welcomed here for a few years as would Soderberg's and Frolik's. None of these players are big minute guys or big scorers but will do fine on a team together. Maybe we even sign Fisher/Vermette for center depth.

Have to factor in cost. Soderberg is going to be a pretty large contract. Have to really consider if that is worth it if he isn't going to greatly help the team.

We shouldn't be locking ourselves long term into anything on the free agent market unless it's really woryh it (and this year there is little to nothing that looks worth it)

 

[Zajacs Bowl Cut]

It's 2015. Athletes' careers aren't over after the age of 32. On this team, Justin Williams would be a perfect 1RW or 2RW.

(As noted above, he's also tradable after 2).

yea 40 points, perfect!

absolutely the last type of player we should be signing.

 

[Bleedred]

No thanks on Justin Williams.

He's gonna be another one of those Michael Ryder signings, or at least he could turn out to be that way.

Given a reasonable deal, then being deadweight for most of it.

Only I don't think he'll be getting a reasonable deal like Ryder did, that Conn Smythe is gonna overinflate his value.

Justin Williams was also invisible for a good chunk of those Kings games down the stretch, where they couldn't score for ****.

 

[Zajacs Bowl Cut]

it just doesnt make any sense to me that people want to give longterm deals to 34 year olds. this team is not contending anytime soon.

I Realize they need to "fill out the roster" but Id rather Matteau or Josefson get more minutes over signing a 34 year old forward

 

[MichaelJ]

It's 2015. Athletes' careers aren't over after the age of 32. On this team, Justin Williams would be a perfect 1RW or 2RW.

(As noted above, he's also tradable after 2).

I'd rather sign him to play RW2 or even 3 rather than trade assets for Sharp as has been discussed.

 

[Emperoreddy]

We shouldn't be giving out long term deals and honestly it sounds like Shero agrees we shouldn't because he said that the age of the team, especially at forward is a concern.

New GM wants to get younger.

 

[MichaelJ]

No thanks on Justin Williams.

He's gonna be another one of those Michael Ryder signings, or at least he could turn out to be that way.

Given a reasonable deal, then being deadweight for most of it.

Only I don't think he'll be getting a reasonable deal like Ryder did, that Conn Smythe is gonna overinflate his value.

Justin Williams was also invisible for a good chunk of those Kings games down the stretch, where they couldn't score for ****.

I don't see Williams as a Ryder type at all. We need forwards who can play now as well as build a farm system that will be ready to move in in 2-3 years.

 

[Bleedred]

Justin Williams is an OLD 34 too.

Seems like he's been in the league for like 20 years now.

 

[MadDevil]

Williams on a 2-3 year deal would be okay. I wouldn't go any longer than that though.

 

[Marshal Rochambeau]

We shouldn't be giving out long term deals and honestly it sounds like Shero agrees we shouldn't because he said that the age of the team, especially at forward is a concern.

New GM wants to get younger.

At this point the option is to sign free agents to put together a better team or not make any additions and expect another top ten pick. There is little to no youth coming in next year that will be able to fill our top nine.

Also long term contracts are 5+ years. Obviously no one here wants a 34 year old for that long.

 

[theoptimist]

yea 40 points, perfect!

absolutely the last type of player we should be signing.

Yes, 40 more points on this team would be welcomed, especially from a forward who shoots with his right. Zajac is the only viable top-6 option who's right handed. I'd like to reiterate that I'm not suggesting all RW have to be right handed, but we're sorely lacking in that department.

A good majority of our roster shoots left handed. Balance is essential.

 

[theoptimist]

At this point the option is to sign free agents to put together a better team or not make any additions and expect another top ten pick. There is little to no youth coming in next year that will be able to fill our top nine.

I'm favoring the former. Cannot stand to watch pointless hockey in the month of March/April.

Mix and match: free agency, trades, AHL to try and ice a BETTER team. At the start of the season, if we consider ourselves to be a bubble team (without mortgaging the future) than we've had a successful summer, imo.