Confirmed with Link: Devils re-sign Stefan Noesen (1 year, $1,725,000)

[OmNomNom]

noesen's just trying to see if he can get more money next season.

coleman wanted job security, i guess?

 

[Smitty426]

Could be because Coleman was UFA after this year while Noesen was only RFA.

exactly

 

[Triumph]

I don't think a 1 year deal was Noesen's idea. Devils have lots of young players at RW - a long-term deal for Noesen doesn't seem like that great of an idea. Coleman as an LW/C has more flexibility in where he can play.

 

[Darkauron]

It makes sense for both parties. If nose sucks this year then the next contact will be cheaper or if he is better nose gets more money. It is a prove it contract for sure.

 

[Classic Devil]

A show-me deal.

 

[SpeakingOfTheDevils]

I don't think a 1 year deal was Noesen's idea. Devils have lots of young players at RW - a long-term deal for Noesen doesn't seem like that great of an idea. Coleman as an LW/C has more flexibility in where he can play.

This is what I was getting at -- the 1-year deal provides more flexibility if one of the young RWs surprise and come out of nowhere... sound familiar?

If the above doesn't happen, Noesen is still an RFA and under team control. Very ideal.

Admittedly though, I thought Coleman was RFA after this upcoming year. Knowing that he would've been UFA, Coleman's 3 years vs. Noesen's 1 year makes more sense.

 

[devilsblood]

I don't think a 1 year deal was Noesen's idea. Devils have lots of young players at RW - a long-term deal for Noesen doesn't seem like that great of an idea. Coleman as an LW/C has more flexibility in where he can play.

Except we have more LW's then RW. Even Bratt is a LW playing on the right. In general LW's are much more prevalent.

So I could see Noesen thinking he could make a year from now on a 3 year deal.

During the season I liked Coleman's energy more. And Noesen was more likely to be scratched here and there. But Noesen's defensive #'s were the best on the team by a pretty good stretch.

I'm thinking he has long term future here.

 

[Triumph]

Except we have more LW's then RW. Even Bratt is a LW playing on the right. In general LW's are much more prevalent.

This isn't really true in the Devils' organization below the NHL, where the Devils have Anderson, McLeod, Bastian, and Speers as RH shots. And that's not counting Lappin who still has an outside shot at an NHL career.

So I could see Noesen thinking he could make a year from now on a 3 year deal.

I'm skeptical that a player who has suffered injuries that cost him 1.5 seasons of his career and was on waivers 18 months ago would 'bet on himself' rather than take the longest possible deal. But hey, some people have that kind of confidence.

During the season I liked Coleman's energy more. And Noesen was more likely to be scratched here and there. But Noesen's defensive #'s were the best on the team by a pretty good stretch.

I'm thinking he has long term future here.

I like Noesen a lot, but the Devils found him on waivers. I'm not sure he can replicate his performance from last season. There's no need to sign players like this to long-term deals. I do find it amusing when people see one thing (Noesen signs a 1 year deal) as evidence of the complete opposite from what is implied by that action (i.e. Noesen has a long-term future here).

 

[Devils Dominion]

A show-me deal.

I thought the same thing

 

[My3Sons]

Except we have more LW's then RW. Even Bratt is a LW playing on the right. In general LW's are much more prevalent.

So I could see Noesen thinking he could make a year from now on a 3 year deal.

During the season I liked Coleman's energy more. And Noesen was more likely to be scratched here and there. But Noesen's defensive #'s were the best on the team by a pretty good stretch.

I'm thinking he has long term future here.

The first line can be considered set with Hall Nico and Palms. The bottom six looks good with guys like Noesen Coleman Wood and even Zajac who is fine as a bottom six guy. Really just like last year the team needs a true second line. Hopefully between MarJo PZ Bratt and whoever else bubbles up from the bottom six they can generate a consistent second scoring line.

 

[devilsblood]

This isn't really true in the Devils' organization below the NHL, where the Devils have Anderson, McLeod, Bastian, and Speers as RH shots. And that's not counting Lappin who still has an outside shot at an NHL career.



I'm skeptical that a player who has suffered injuries that cost him 1.5 seasons of his career and was on waivers 18 months ago would 'bet on himself' rather than take the longest possible deal. But hey, some people have that kind of confidence.



I like Noesen a lot, but the Devils found him on waivers. I'm not sure he can replicate his performance from last season. There's no need to sign players like this to long-term deals. I do find it amusing when people see one thing (Noesen signs a 1 year deal) as evidence of the complete opposite from what is implied by that action (i.e. Noesen has a long-term future here).

1)McLeod and Anderson sure (though McLeod is looked at as a center) but Bastian and Speers? Are they better prospects then Boqvist, Gignac, Sharangovich, Maltsev? Meh. Lappin? C'mon.

And the depth at the NHL level is the true consideration, where we have 5 LW's and 2 RW's. Last year we had Hayes and Stafford getting significant playing time.

2)I bet Noesen would have taken a longer term deal if it was on the table, but it wasn't. So there is def a weighing of options. But even if he preferred a long term deal, a one year deal, despite the lack of security, does come with the possibility of a bigger long term deal next offseason.

3) I don't see him signing a one year deal as evidence of him having a long term future in NJ. I see his play last year, his age, and the lack of quality RW's at the NHL level as evidence of him having a longer term future.

But right now it's all about next year. I imagine he'll be pretty motivated. And I'm sure NJ believes that as well.

 

[Jets012]

Noesen is a beast. I bet he plays his way into a long-term contract next year

 

[Emperoreddy]

He isn't wrong though. We have some high end RW prospects that you expect to earn spots in the next two years.

Plus you already have Palms, pus Bratt playing a lot of RW. Don't think you want to tie yourself up long term with Noesen yet.

Now if he earns it next season that changes.

 

[kdb527]

2)I bet Noesen would have taken a longer term deal if it was on the table, but it wasn't. .

You have no idea if the devils offered a long term deal or not.

 

[devilsblood]

You have no idea if the devils offered a long term deal or not.

True. But I could still be correct.

 

[devilsblood]

He isn't wrong though. We have some high end RW prospects that you expect to earn spots in the next two years.

Plus you already have Palms, pus Bratt playing a lot of RW. Don't think you want to tie yourself up long term with Noesen yet.

Now if he earns it next season that changes.

That's fine, all I said was I think he still has a long term future here. Which yes, would require a strong year this upcoming season.

He does need to prove he can stay healthy, he will need to contribute similar point levels, and (for comparisons sake) does not play specialty teams like Coleman does. But Noesen had the best on ice defensive #'s on the team amongst fwd's. This while have decent offensive #'s, both individually and on ice.

As per our RW prospects? We have a ton of LW's in NJ, we have a bunch of LW prospects. It didn't limit our signing of Coleman. Why? Cause Coleman is good, he's young enough, he's cheap. Noesen (off another solid year) would be in a similar boat.

 

[Call Me Al]

even with our high end rw prospects noesen can carve out a useful long term role on the team

 

[My3Sons]

even with our high end rw prospects noesen can carve out a useful long term role on the team

Other than ANDERSON who are the high end RW prospects? That’s not a snarky question. I just don’t see Speers and BASTIAN as high end guys. Just an opinion but I am curious how others see the NJ prospects.

 

[devilsblood]

Other than ANDERSON who are the high end RW prospects? That’s not a snarky question. I just don’t see Speers and BASTIAN as high end guys. Just an opinion but I am curious how others see the NJ prospects.

Some are putting McLeod there, and while I do advocate him getting some NHL time as a RW to start his career, center is his natural position.

But yeah after Anderson, there's a drop off. Could guys rise up, like Bastian, Speers, Zetterlund, Stud's maybe(a lefty RW)? Sure but I wouldn't not sign Noesen because of that.

 

[My3Sons]

Some are putting McLeod there, and while I do advocate him getting some NHL time as a RW to start his career, center is his natural position.

But yeah after Anderson, there's a drop off. Could guys rise up, like Bastian, Speers, Zetterlund, Stud's maybe(a lefty RW)? Sure but I wouldn't not sign Noesen because of that.

I forgot about McLeod as a RW. Maybe short term but I don’t think they view that as his long term spot. I also forgot about Zetterlund. Hopefully he has a good start to his season and he is a difference maker at the WJC and then it will be easier to see how he might fit in. He looks the part and allegedly has the big shot you like to see from scoring wingers. Hopefully his skating and two way play are up to par.

 

[mtnet]

I feel they definitely view McLeod as a center long term if he eventually solidifies a spot on the team. As many have said, our Zajac of the future which I think is a fair projection. Good at faceoffs, defensively tenacious, and great work ethic. He's also faster and a better skater than Travis, though at this stage in his young career not quite as sharp but that's something the coaches and vets should be able to remedy.

Not that faceoffs are the be all end all but there was much hand wringing regarding our woeful team percentages at times and the ridiculous overuse of Boyle for pivotal faceoffs in situations where I think we'd all rather not have him out there. Aside from his skating and defense, faceoffs should definitely be an area where McLeod can contribute to possession in key situations.

 

[glenwo2]

these moves secure the bottom of the lineup at reasonable prices.

these are the guys who are just as instrumental as your stars in a deep playoff run. we know this.

shero is bae.

Shero is what-now?

I swear these new-age terms in our vocabulary confound me. *old man grumble*

 

[glenwo2]

Okay, that tears it.

WHO HERE IS REALLY KEITH KINKAID??

He has to have an account here.

 

[My3Sons]

Shero is what-now?

I swear these new-age terms in our vocabulary confound me. *old man grumble*

According to my kids it means Shero is someone’s significant other.

 

[MadDevil]

Okay, that tears it.

WHO HERE IS REALLY KEITH KINKAID??

He has to have an account here.

Probably the guy who keeps saying he thinks Kinkaid will be a starter.