There is no question Caufield >>>>> Holtz. I mean, its not even close on any level.
Ruff would agree!
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Ruff would agree!
So Ducharme was never wrong and the entire Habs forum is filled with not very smart people according to your logic.There is no question Caufield >>>>> Holtz. I mean, its not even close on any level.
Ruff would agree!
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then why does he produce less at even strength? or is he very good defensively? brings a physical edge against opponents?There is no question Caufield >>>>> Holtz. I mean, its not even close on any level.
Ruff would agree!
the simple truth is he wears a montreal jersey and you watch everything through homer glasses. caufield is better than holtz. but at least this season the edge is nowhere close to >>>>>. with holtz being a full year younger than caufield the gap may shrink even more in the future.
That’s always your choice. But you are also looking at a development curve as a permanent thing. You have no idea how Ruff sees Holtz beyond today. How many young players are finished products? I’d think as a self professed junior hockey fan you’d realize that young people almost always make progress and it happens at different rates. He’s 22. Mike McLeod just took his jump as a player at 25. Hischier did it at 23 and Jack Hughes did it at 21. If you write off Holtz now you are doing him and yourself a disservice. Holtz is flawed but still has time to correct the things he needs work on. If you don’t like what you perceive to be his skill set that’s fine but yiu have no idea how Ruff sees where Holtz could end up.
He’s 22. Tell me again how Ruff sees his potential long term. Why is this about where a 22 year old developing player is today? A player at that age and experience level is learning. You are applying a myopic standard for some reason. It rings shrill and hollow. Hopefully Ruff is MTL’s next coach. I’m sure you will be thrilled with his coaching.
We know more than you that's for sure lol....and all your doing is trying to antagonize people by you defending Ruff....Laughable every coach has their favorites and their doghouse but according to you Lindy is the one exception....Move on stop trolling it's obvious u don't know what you are talking about....
Now you are getting it. A player of Holtz's age is still developing. He has major warts that the coach is trying to correct. Nothing wrong with that and good on Lindy Ruff for working on his game. Why you are up in a tizzy is beyond me. Take a deep breath and exhale my friend. Its not the end of the world. Holtz will one day become competent. Its a process.
Now you are getting it. A player of Holtz's age is still developing. He has major warts that the coach is trying to correct. Nothing wrong with that and good on Lindy Ruff for working on his game. Why you are up in a tizzy is beyond me. Take a deep breath and exhale my friend. Its not the end of the world. Holtz will one day become competent. Its a process.
I’m not in a tizzy. Your earlier posts came across as permanently branding him based on where his game is now. That’s a common trope in the board. Had you led with this I doubt you’d have gotten any pushback.
No one is branding him as permanently flawed. I mean, the jury is still out on him. But i always keep an open mind with young developing players. Like Nemec, he has a long way to go but is on the right track.
I support Lindy Ruff's efforts to turn Holtz into a competent two-way player - especially for a team that aspirations of a playoff spot. Every point matters and you can't afford to have young players making major mistakes at the wrong time.
Now try to calm down and enjoy your Saturday! Don't let my posts get you down.
Tranquillo!
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No one is branding him as permanently flawed. I mean, the jury is still out on him. But i always keep an open mind with young developing players. Like Nemec, he has a long way to go but is on the right track.
I support Lindy Ruff's efforts to turn Holtz into a competent two-way player - especially for a team that aspirations of a playoff spot. Every point matters and you can't afford to have young players making major mistakes at the wrong time.
Now try to calm down and enjoy your Saturday! Don't let my posts get you down.
Tranquillo!
I promise at my age I’m not getting worked up over this. I realize it’s hard to discern tone and intent from written words only. I’m more like resigned and disappointed when posters seemingly trash young players on other teams. You explained yourself and I get it. One point still stands though which is that NJ fans won’t respond well to praising Ruff. Maybe he’s correct on things but he’s turned off large parts of the fanbase this season for better or worse.
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Mercer would they move him?
Devil's up against the cap with 4 or 5 guys up for increases next season. Mercer, Toffoli, Daws, McLeod.
Devil's up against the cap with 4 or 5 guys up for increases next season. Mercer, Toffoli, Daws, McLeod.
mercer would be the last of those guys the devils would sacrifice as a cap casuality.
or on it other words he is not available.
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Some say Guhle shouldn't be traded, but 2024 is a defensemen draft.
Habs will draft around 6-10th, where there's plenty of quality defensemen available.
Buium is incredible, chances are he's gonna be available around those picks.
Plus Habs have plenty of young LHD in the NHL and in the system.
Personally, I wouldn't fall in love with our LHD, MB did this and it wasn't the way to go.
In my mind, if Guhle is traded for an equivalent talented forward, it's fine by me.
The most important thing is the pay back, it has to be equivalent in value and in age.
Habs will draft around 6-10th, where there's plenty of quality defensemen available.
Buium is incredible, chances are he's gonna be available around those picks.
Plus Habs have plenty of young LHD in the NHL and in the system.
Personally, I wouldn't fall in love with our LHD, MB did this and it wasn't the way to go.
In my mind, if Guhle is traded for an equivalent talented forward, it's fine by me.
The most important thing is the pay back, it has to be equivalent in value and in age.
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No worries because you can't have him.
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Have no interest in trading Ghule for Holtz.
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We're fine with the Cap. Toffoli will walk and he's replaced with Holtz who is on a ELC. Daws has only played 7 games. He can't ask for anything. Only people getting raises is Mercer and McLeod. Mercer essentially just takes up Toffoli's contract. McLeod will get a few million but nothing crazy. Mercer is one of our core pieces. I don't see a scenario he gets moved unless it's for something insane.
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the Devils are 8th in scoring, and thats with basically every one of their important forwards missing at least a few weeks.. Goals ain't the problem.
going forward (next season +) i can see mercer averaging more goals than toffoli
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