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Detroit's Best Defensemen This Season (2015-16)
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Dekeyser (pretty obviously our best D)
Green (A great addition, our only defenseman who can carry the pick)
Marchenko (he is actually pretty good at defense...not much O there)
Smith (still has flashes of brilliance, but too inconsistent. If only he had a brain)
Kronwall (old and slow)
Quincey (he's a mediocre defenseman that's pretty much the opposite of Smith)
Ericsson (dead weight in the most true form)
Green (A great addition, our only defenseman who can carry the pick)
Marchenko (he is actually pretty good at defense...not much O there)
Smith (still has flashes of brilliance, but too inconsistent. If only he had a brain)
Kronwall (old and slow)
Quincey (he's a mediocre defenseman that's pretty much the opposite of Smith)
Ericsson (dead weight in the most true form)
Green
Quincey
Dekeyser
Marchenko
Smith
Kronwall
Kindl
Ericcson
Pretty shocked at the consensus on Dekeyser. Just goes to show what reputation can do for you. Fully expect that to flip around on him in about 2 years when he is still playing exactly the same game.
Quincey
Dekeyser
Marchenko
Smith
Kronwall
Kindl
Ericcson
Pretty shocked at the consensus on Dekeyser. Just goes to show what reputation can do for you. Fully expect that to flip around on him in about 2 years when he is still playing exactly the same game.
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Well, who played the toughest minutes? Probably DeKeyser. Who played the most minutes? Probably Kronwall, but how much of that was on the PP? Kronwall has a dismal +/-, DeKeyser and Ericsson are barely in the positive. Green has some nice point totals but he isn't being asked to play many tough assignments.
I'd say:
DeKeyser
Green
Quincey
Marchenko
Ericsson
Kronwall
Smith
I'd say:
DeKeyser
Green
Quincey
Marchenko
Ericsson
Kronwall
Smith
Yeah. Did I say terrible? At all? Like twisting facts to suit your argument. The guy is nothing more than an average middle pairing defender. Nothing wrong with that. Quincey had the better year yet because of his previous history he gets hammered for it.
I think most everyone agrees he's a middle pair D-man. Unfortunately, on the Wings, that makes you a top pair D-man.
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A couple key differences between Dekeyser and Green.
Green's starts in the offensive zone 70.8% of the time (highest in the NHL)
Dekeyser starts in the offensive zone 45.1% of the time (lowest on the Wings)
Green's ES TOI/G: 16:51
Dekeyser's ES TOI/G: 18:36 (most on the Wings)
So yes, Green looked pretty good this season compared to the rest of the D, which isn't saying a lot. How do you think DK and Green would look if those stats were reversed?
Green wasnt the defensive gaffe every single person made him out to be. So its kinda hard to say how he would have fared in the back end.
Its easy to see that Dekeyser doesnt have the offensive nouse of Green but it is true he could have done well with more O-zone starts. To be completely honest, I made that list without looking at a single stat to back it up. I picked it on how I would have chosen the guys based on watching the entire year.
Its easy to see that Dekeyser doesnt have the offensive nouse of Green but it is true he could have done well with more O-zone starts. To be completely honest, I made that list without looking at a single stat to back it up. I picked it on how I would have chosen the guys based on watching the entire year.
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Green
Smith
DeKeyser
Kronwall (pre-injury)
Marchenko
Quincey
Ericsson
DK at the top spot? Not even close imo
Smith
DeKeyser
Kronwall (pre-injury)
Marchenko
Quincey
Ericsson
DK at the top spot? Not even close imo
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Depends on how you look at it. If it's by the hope instilled when 3 years ago Pierre McGuire was screaming how "29 other teams were BEGGING for DeKeyser!" then yeah he was a letdown. But if we consider him stepping in as the #1 during Kronwall's injury and down the stretch I think he played admirably. Green in the prime of his life at 6 mil was just not good enough to be labeled the best this season.
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Let me put it this way,
I would not feel comfortable with any of the Wings defensive pairings against any opposing teams 4th line.
Consistently unreliable.
Green wins the "best" title by virtue of his 34 points. The rest of the defenseman were garbage at everything they did.
I would not feel comfortable with any of the Wings defensive pairings against any opposing teams 4th line.
Consistently unreliable.
Green wins the "best" title by virtue of his 34 points. The rest of the defenseman were garbage at everything they did.
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He's got a reputation for being solid in his own zone. And right now. That's the best the wings got. You're acting like he's a bottom pairing dmen on any other team
Quincey didn't have the better year. But he had a good one
