Speculation: Detroit Needs a Goalie, short or long term

[Seachd]

Draft a goalie then with that number 1 pick

Why would they do that? Their first round pick isn't their only chance to get a goalie.

 

[domiwroze]

Kinkaid for 7th
Lindgren for 5th

 

[Eggtimer]

Schneider max retained plus Wood plus a pick for a cap dump .
Ya... not happening . Schneider will be impossible to dump and will have to be bought out or rot on the bench

 

[WingsMJN2965]

They can draft Askarov for free.

Hard pass.

 

[Wingsfan 4 life]

Long term....sure, depending on who and what the price is.

Short term....no thanks. At least in terms of trading for one. Rather see who shakes free in July.

 

[WingsMJN2965]

Rangers give you Alexander Georgiev and Brady Skjei, for your first this year. You have a good number 3 d-man and a number 1 goalie.

Boy, you're setting yourself up for disappointment with what you're actually gonna get out of this stuff...

 

[deckercky]

Browse - CapFriendly - NHL Salary Caps

There should be some decent options as a stopgap this summer.

 

[MilesNewton]

Make a deal with Anaheim for Gibson he is miserable out there.

 

[seroes]

Martin Jones is what your team needs. His soft goals, bad positioning and choking will assure your team of a top 4 pick for the next four years. Just what the rebuild ordered.

 

[Wingsfan 4 life]

That's a really, really bad question.
What difference does it make?
You want these kids playing in front of minor league goaltending? Afraid to play hockey because everything ends up in the net?
You want them to become accustomed to 8-2 scores?
You want them to look at Howard play night after night and learn that there are no repercussions for failure to perform?

We've been in rebuild mode for years.
We've been unlucky in the lottery.

Losing with the worst differential in modern hockey history doesn't give you lottery luck.

What team have you've been watching all year? Its not just the goaltending. Our defense as a whole is craptastic and our "offensive support" is non existent. Seeing that those things aren't changing overnight, it doesn't really matter who's between the pipes. They're bound to get lit up like a christmas tree too.

 

[WingsMJN2965]

Make a deal with Anaheim for Gibson he is miserable out there.

And he'd be less miserable in Detroit?

 

[MBH]

What team have you've been watching all year? Its not just the goaltending. Our defense as a whole is craptastic and our "offensive support" is non existent. Seeing that those things aren't changing overnight, it doesn't really matter who's between the pipes. They're bound to get lit up like a christmas tree too.

This team:
Bernier 10-12-2 .904 2.99
Howard 2-16-1 .876 4.26
Comrie 0-2 .864 4.28
Pickard 0-2 .797 5.46

What are you watching?

 

[Cyborg Yzerberg]

Nothing foolish was suggested.
Trading Helm/Perlini/Erne and a b/c level prospect for a goalie to finish up the season isn't foolish.

Trading AA or Fabbri for a goalie who could be part of the future isn't foolish.

What's foolish trotting Larkin, Bertuzzi, Hronek, and Zadina over the boards to get ****ing throttled every ****ing night.

It's fine, dude. That's going to happen when you're the worst team in the league and it doesn't matter who's in net. This is going to take a few years.

 

[Wingsfan 4 life]

This team:
Bernier 10-12-2 .904 2.99
Howard 2-16-1 .876 4.26
Comrie 0-2 .864 4.28
Pickard 0-2 .797 5.46

What are you watching?

The team whose scored 2 or more 29 times out of the 47 they played. 11 of which was 2 goals right on the dot. That's 61% of the time where we couldn't even muster up 3 freaking goals. Name one goalie who would be even good with that kind of offensive support.

Oh wait, not just that, but also with just Hronek who seems to have any idea that there's an actual defensive zone.

You can spout off the goalie numbers a million times, but its not gonna negate the fact that this abomination of a season doesn't rest solely on the goalies.

But hey, I can spout off numbers too.

15-31-2/.904/2.98
6-17-0/.898/3.38
1-6-1/.888/3.54
0-2-1/.865/4.35

Look familiar? Hint: They aren't last years Detroit goalie numbers. Those are the goalie numbers from Colorado's (Pickard,Varlamov,Smith,Martin in that order) awesome 2016-17 season, where they put up a whopping 165 goals over a full 82 games.

I very much doubt you'll find one Aves fan who'll tell you that they are solely the result of the goalies.

 

[WingsMJN2965]

This team:
Bernier 10-12-2 .904 2.99
Howard 2-16-1 .876 4.26
Comrie 0-2 .864 4.28
Pickard 0-2 .797 5.46

What are you watching?

Not sure what you don't get about shitty defense contributing to shitty goaltending.

... But I'm not surprised, considering your previous takes.

 

[njx9]

Man, I love when the "losing culture" garbage comes up. I suppose that's why the Avs have never recovered from 12-13 and will never recover from 16-17, right? All that losing culture just ruined Mackinnon. He'll certainly never be a player again.

But hey, if it happened to Edmonton, as if "losing culture" is actually the problem there, it's exactly what's going to happen to the Wings. Especially under Yzerman in his first year.

Just some absolute top minds in here.

But yeah OP, let's trade some solid players so we still lose, but by like, 1 less goal, the rest of the way. No wonder you're a GM. Brilliant. And spend those assets on the biggest question mark in the league, instead of fixing, say, the worst defense in the league. Great plan. Clearly you looked at some GAAs and W/Ls and have it all sorted.

 

[TheKingSlayer]

I can see Carolina going after Georgiev and then flipping Reimer to Detroit. Win-win for everyone.

Detroit is going to have a hard time convincing any goalie to play for them after this season - so having Reimer under contract for next year is a positive for them. They can roll with a 3-headed tandem for now, or flip Howard to a team (50%) looking for a veteran stop-gap for one year (Toronto??).

 

[ShelbyZ]

Rangers give you Alexander Georgiev and Brady Skjei, for your first this year. You have a good number 3 d-man and a number 1 goalie.

Deal, but the Rangers have to take back Abdelkader, Nielsen and Helm with no retention.

Detroit is going to have a hard time convincing any goalie to play for them after this season - so having Reimer under contract for next year is a positive for them. They can roll with a 3-headed tandem for now, or flip Howard to a team (50%) looking for a veteran stop-gap for one year (Toronto??).

LOL. Yea... no. I actually don't mind Reimer. However, he makes little sense because the Wings would then go into the first 32 team offseason potentially needing to replace their top 3 goalies (Bernier/Reimer, Pickard). The ideal fit for them is to find someone that will be under contract or RFA past the expansion draft to give them some insurance so they don't have sign two or three goalies when the NHL adds another team worth of goaltending jobs.

They likely won't have any trouble bringing in a goalie after this year... They'll have plenty of cap space to slightly over pay if needed. Plus if a guy simply wants some stability or an assurance they won't have to uproot after a year and move to Seattle, the Wings can pretty much guarantee that goalie will be protected in the expansion draft if they sign for multiple years.

 

[varano]

At this point, they should take someone's garbage overpaid goalie and get a good prospect with him. Detroit really needless to restock

 

[super6646]

Rangers give you Alexander Georgiev and Brady Skjei, for your first this year. You have a good number 3 d-man and a number 1 goalie.

Tough, but fair imo. Skjei will anchor that Detroit defense for a decade imo if he was traded, and finally someone recognizes his return value.

Fair.

 

[WingsMJN2965]

Tough, but fair imo. Skjei will anchor that Detroit defense for a decade imo if he was traded, and finally someone recognizes his return value.

Fair.

Yeah, nobody's giving up the guaranteed Top 4/Top Odds pick for Georgiev and Skjei.

 

[super6646]

Yeah, nobody's giving up the guaranteed Top 4/Top Odds pick for Georgiev and Skjei.

Skjei is underrated af and a goddamn beast. I’d do it in an instant, but I guess only I can see it.

 

[WingsMJN2965]

Skjei is underrated af and a goddamn beast. I’d do it in an instant, but I guess only I can see it.

He's great.

... He's not worth the best shot at Lafreniere or Byfield.

 

[HisNoodliness]

At this point, they should take someone's garbage overpaid goalie and get a good prospect with him. Detroit really needless to restock

I'm with this guy. Choose an underperforming cap-dump goalie, get an extra asset to take him. Hope he bounces back. If not at least you got the asset and we have no need for a good goalie for 2 or 3 more years anyway.

 

[varano]

I'm with this guy. Choose an underperforming cap-dump goalie, get an extra asset to take him. Hope he bounces back. If not at least you got the asset and we have no need for a good goalie for 2 or 3 more years anyway.

Jake Allan as an example