Value of: Deangelo, auction style

[bernmeister]

Title says it all.
NY prefers not to put cap $ there, guy is actual righty shot RD, will get paid even tho still some rfa.
Has emerging prospects at RD.
Thin on quality LD prospects [K'Andre Miller looks good but projects 2 yrs away min, have couple of others in the pipeline but unclear they make it or bust at this pt].

Mostly looking at picks and prospects, pref better ones who are exp drft exempt.

What is your offer...

-- let's see if we can get a ballpark consensus on what he is worth standalone.
we can then use that to see if a package makes more sense.

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[FameFlame069]

2nd + Kylington?

 

[Ledge And Dairy]

Krebs and a 3rd still seems like the most logical one to me for both teams

 

[Alikhan Alizada]

Krebs and a 3rd still seems like the most logical one to me for both teams

Krebs is doing well. Vegas shouldn't do that.

 

[Ledge And Dairy]

Krebs is doing well. Vegas shouldn't do that.

Vegas doesn't need forwards they desperately need a PPQB

 

[HOPE]

Never actually watched it him with care, 40pts in 50games RHD, 24 year old.. why the rangers would trade that? Obvious defiencies?

 

[Ledge And Dairy]

Never actually watched it him with care, 40pts in 50games RHD, 24 year old.. why the rangers would trade that? Obvious defiencies?

The development of Adam Fox (who refuses to play anywhere else), the addition of Trouba long term(who is their only RD over 6ft, and has a solid 200 ft game), as well as other promising prospects like K'Andre Miller and Nils Lundqvist coming up soon. DeAngelo's value is at an all time high right now and appears to be the odd man out

 

[pld459666]

Title says it all.
NY prefers not to put cap $ there, guy is actual righty shot RD, will get paid even tho still some rfa.
Has emerging prospects at RD.
Thin on quality LD prospects [K'Andre Miller looks good but projects 2 yrs away min, have couple of others in the pipeline but unclear they make it or bust at this pt].

Mostly looking at picks and prospects, pref better ones who are exp drft exempt.

What is your offer...

-- let's see if we can get a ballpark consensus on what he is worth standalone.
we can then use that to see if a package makes more sense.

Is this a reserved or unreserved Auction?

 

[pld459666]

Never actually watched it him with care, 40pts in 50games RHD, 24 year old.. why the rangers would trade that? Obvious defiencies?

I wouldn't move him myself, but an argument can be made that from an asset perspective, we look to be in great position from the RHD spot with Trouba, Fox and eventually Nils Lundkvist.

Using ADA as bait can sure up other areas of need.

I 1000% disagree that picks or prospects would be the target here. For a young player like this, you need to get a top 6 LW that is similar in age and ability back.

There are some Rangers fans that have major wood for Tuch.

His season concerns me. Less than .5 pts per game. On pace for less than 30 points. That's a red flag for me

Was his 52 point season the outlier?

 

[bernmeister]

2nd + Kylington?

shoe on the other foot, is that enuf?

 

[bernmeister]

Never actually watched it him with care, 40pts in 50games RHD, 24 year old.. why the rangers would trade that? Obvious defiencies?

like I said, they have emerging Ds, need to get ahead of the cap, and repurpose his value into other assets.
No negatives on Dea, just that his rfa will go up from .9+ to at least 5 x that, which is still okay for what he produces.

We can do other workarounds and keep him at that price, and deal someone else or deal him with term.

But if enuf on the table, makes sense to move him now.

The development of Adam Fox (who refuses to play anywhere else), the addition of Trouba long term(who is their only RD over 6ft, and has a solid 200 ft game), as well as other promising prospects like K'Andre Miller and Nils Lundqvist coming up soon. DeAngelo's value is at an all time high right now and appears to be the odd man out

makes sense to sell high and that would be the case here

Is this a reserved or unreserved Auction?

the one where if an acceptable min offer is not made, the item is pulled back.

 

[Kraken Jokes]

This seems like something to revisit in the offseason.

 

[bernmeister]

I wouldn't move him myself, but an argument can be made that from an asset perspective, we look to be in great position from the RHD spot with Trouba, Fox and eventually Nils Lundkvist.

Using ADA as bait can sure up other areas of need.

I 1000% disagree that picks or prospects would be the target here. For a young player like this, you need to get a top 6 LW that is similar in age and ability back.

There are some Rangers fans that have major wood for Tuch.

His season concerns me. Less than .5 pts per game. On pace for less than 30 points. That's a red flag for me

Was his 52 point season the outlier?

this thread intended to have open minded comparison of multiple possibilities.

We have an exp draft upcoming which could require protection on an established asset. Moving Deangelo is an opportunity to get something exempt.

However, your point is well taken.
The correct established asset may be well worth taking on higher salary or requirement to protect, etc.

Going down your road of an established asset, who are your targets...

This seems like something to revisit in the offseason.

except he has immediate production value now, which is of worth to a suitor

 

[BPD]

This seems like something to revisit in the offseason.

Unless a team is willing to BLOW US AWAY, yeah, agreed.

 

[bert]

Krebs is doing well. Vegas shouldn't do that.

So people know who Anthony Deangelo is?

Kylington and a 2nd lol flames fans in back to back threads clueless.

Lassi Thomson + ottawas highest 2nd 2020 and a 3rd 2021 + guennette

 

[Shootertooter]

I'm trying to put a realistic value on ADA. If NYR was looking for picks/prospects......I think the value on a 24yr old RFA offensive RHD who is likely to break 60pts this season is 2 1st's or a 1st and an A prospect. For current NHL talent...... I want either a young 23/24 top 3 winger or top 6 C in return.

Overall, I'd rather NYR resign him and he plays the off hand side.

 

[slg1963]

I'm trying to put a realistic value on ADA. If NYR was looking for picks/prospects......I think the value on a 24yr old RFA offensive RHD who is likely to break 60pts this season is 2 1st's or a 1st and an A prospect. For current NHL talent...... I want either a young 23/24 top 3 winger or top 6 C in return.

Overall, I'd rather NYR resign him and he plays the off hand side.

I agree, try ADA or Fox on the Left side

 

[TGWL]

This seems like something to revisit in the offseason.

Exactly this. I feel confident saying he's 100% not being moved before the off-season. Our organization will re-evaluate our defense during the off-season.

 

[pld459666]

I agree, try ADA or Fox on the Left side

I think Fox, being the more well rounded defender, should be given the shot at LD.

In fact, I'd make him ADA's partner.

Gifted enough offensively to not slow ADA down, defensively responsible enough to cover for any risky plays made by his partner. High enough Hockey IQ to know where to be and what to do in any situation.

 

[Pavlikovsky]

So people know who Anthony Deangelo is?

Kylington and a 2nd lol flames fans in back to back threads clueless.

Lassi Thomson + ottawas highest 2nd 2020 and a 3rd 2021 + guennette

While I get that Deangelo is good I don't think Ottawa does that, not that we couldn't use him because we could, but his past attitude issues would probably drive Dorion away after him specifically wanting a good locker room culture.

 

[DarthProbert]

I wouldn't move him myself, but an argument can be made that from an asset perspective, we look to be in great position from the RHD spot with Trouba, Fox and eventually Nils Lundkvist.

Using ADA as bait can sure up other areas of need.

I 1000% disagree that picks or prospects would be the target here. For a young player like this, you need to get a top 6 LW that is similar in age and ability back.

There are some Rangers fans that have major wood for Tuch.

His season concerns me. Less than .5 pts per game. On pace for less than 30 points. That's a red flag for me

Was his 52 point season the outlier?

Tuch is buried behind Stone and Marchessault.

 

[RangersFan1994]

rather deal him at the draft if needed as a Rangers fan. no need to move him now

 

[Doriva]

Maybe a swap for another upcoming RFA forward ? Seems to be plenty of decent candidates.

 

[bernmeister]

2nd + Kylington?

shoe on the other foot, is that enuf?

So people know who Anthony Deangelo is?
Kylington and a 2nd lol flames fans in back to back threads clueless.
Lassi Thomson + ottawas highest 2nd 2020 and a 3rd 2021 + guennette

not clear there is enough LD depth short term if Kylington is moved, but assume he can be sacrificed for RD...

NY would want to get and get 2020 CGY 1st
pls take a stab at it

I agree, try ADA or Fox on the Left side

short term this is sensible and not a prob
but
long term
who are we gonna be forced to protect in exp drf?

Trouba and....

I believe Fox and Rykov are exempt but not Lindgren nor Hajek.
So we must move Skjei
We should sell Dea at highest value, which might be this year NOW while a team that could use him now would pay more.

Prefer an exp exempt asset(s), but let's see what returns are...

 

[pld459666]

not clear there is enough LD depth short term if Kylington is moved, but assume he can be sacrificed for RD...

NY would want to get and get 2020 CGY 1st
pls take a stab at it


short term this is sensible and not a prob
but
long term
who are we gonna be forced to protect in exp drf?

Trouba and....

I believe Fox and Rykov are exempt but not Lindgren nor Hajek.
So we must move Skjei
We should sell Dea at highest value, which might be this year NOW while a team that could use him now would pay more.

Prefer an exp exempt asset(s), but let's see what returns are...

No need to worry about the expansion draft.

Work out a prearranged trade to protect the players you want