News Article: Davidson's early report card could be better

[Space umpire]

and though he had a tough time last season on a brutal team surely the GM could have got something for Kubalik, a former 30-goal scorer (in 68 games).

Surely assumes a factual statement follows.

So you are claiming as fact that teams made offers for Kubalik and Davidson turned them down?
Yet the reality is you just made it up.

 

[goldenbladz1]

The Dcat return doesn’t look great now however Ottawa is not guaranteed Dcat decides to stay. If he leaves then the pendulum swings away from big advantage Ottawa

 

[Hawkey]

All these moves in isolation may look like mistakes but bigger picture they were done to completely tank and rebuild asap. Keeping some of these players would result in some wins next year which hurt the rebuild. You can see they want to tank for a top pick to get the rebuild started. So I can understand making a trade immediately that may not be full value to achieve a long term goal.

 

[ColbyChaos]

It would be hilarious to see Dcat walk after this year just to sign back here especially with how smug Dorian was lol

 

[Muffinalt]

Yeah the Debrincat trade can be criticized, but it helped a lot that right after KD got a really good return for Dach + an honestly pretty promising draft.

A lot will depend on Korchinski. They believed in him enough to target him hard, if he turns into a top pairing D while Cat leaves Ottawa and we get a bunch of high picks in 23, 24 etc organically... then I wouldn't categorize that trade as bad.

 

[Toews2Bickell]

someone would've beat the offer if teams were desperate to acquire DeBrincat, it's a market and Davidson took the best offer, clearly the QO and no sign & trade hindered the return..there were only a few teams even willing to meet the asking price and it wasn't that crazy, his contract was just a big issue

 

[BobbyJet]

Surely assumes a factual statement follows.

So you are claiming as fact that teams made offers for Kubalik and Davidson turned them down?
Yet the reality is you just made it up.

No. Surely in this case was intended to mean that if there were no offers for Kubalik at this time the best option is to keep him and hope he returns to his rookie season form. Don't give him away for nothing..

 

[Space umpire]

No. Surely in this case was intended to mean that if there were no offers for Kubalik at this time the best option is to keep him and hope he returns to his rookie season form. Don't give him away for nothing..

But even that is simply your opinion. It’s not a fact.
It is “reasonable” to think that if there had been an offer Chicago would have taken it.

Kubalik performed well in a key role with top 6 linemates … and then he didn’t.
He may get that back put in the right situation but there is no way Chicago is the right spot.
The Hawks have 1 real top 6 player.
Kubalik can’t carry a line. Doesn’t add speed nor toughness, not bad defensively but not shutting anyone down and isn’t a playmaker who can handle the puck a lot.

He had success in a sniper kind of role. Not in the DeBrincat class but good. The problem with that is he required others to do the work to give him opportunities. Then even with some talent around him he fell off a cliff.

 

[madgoat33]

Could also be perceived issues with his attitude/work ethic and they didnt want him around young players. Kubalik was invisible for like 80/82 games last year.

 

[BobbyJet]

Could also be perceived issues with his attitude/work ethic and they didnt want him around young players. Kubalik was invisible for like 80/82 games last year.

No question that Kubalik struggled mightily but i was also disappointed that King was unable to help him out ...his utilization on the PP for example. I never liked him playing the point on PP2 but the HC persisted.





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[Northernhawk]

I’m hoping Chicago’s great pipeline from overseas doesn’t end...

Stan Bowman European signings

Mathis Olimb
Antti Raanta
Viktor Svedberg
Dennis Rasmussen
Artemi Panarin
Viktor Tikhonov
Erik Gustafsson
Lars Johansson
Martin Lundberg
Michal Kempny
David Kampf
Jan Rutta
Dominik Kahun
Kevin Lankinen
Jacob Nilsson
Anton Wedin
Dominik Kubalik
Philip Holm
Matej Chalupa
Pius Suter
Arvid Soderblom
Jakub Pour

Meanwhile...

Kyle Davidson European signings

Filip Roos

Defiantly was able to tap a resource there, pretty sure Antti Niemi could be added to Bowmans’ list and I had heard the Hawks were close to signing Mats Zuccarrello after his 2010 Norway Olympic performance

 

[TheFridge]

the reason he did not get much for CAT is he is a 5-7 wing that you had to give 8 X $9mil to on a long term deal. that contract that bowman gave him ruined his trade value. if the Q offer was $7 mil for next year we get a way bigger return. the fact the Kub signed for way less then his Q offer means he had no value. Strome signed for his Q offer. maybe we could have gotten something 4-7 round pick at last year TDL and he did not do it but in the off season it was pretty clear nobody wanted to ARB those guys so who was going to trade for him. if you look at wings making $9 mil or more the only guy that cat is clearly better then is Skinner. of the guys 28 and younger. you have marner, kucherov, rantaneen, guadareu, tackcuk kasporiv. would you rather have CAT then those guys at $9-$10 PY

His QO had nothing at all to do with a team's ability to sign him for less than 9M per year on a long-term deal. The QO only affects the minimum offer a team has to make on a one-year deal. The issue is that DeBrincat is very likely going go to command 9M+ per year on merit and I'd imagine there are teams that have reservations about him given his size and lack of playoff exposure.

 

[hawksfan50]

So ...Davidson's job was to tank and re-build...Thus adding Domi and AA and Mrazek could hurt the Tank to the extent they rise from the expected last 3 (which is what is expected if you really want to tank)to the 6-10 range ....justcenough "help" to ensure the Hawks are not in top 3 lottery position with really goid odds of a shot at Bedard.....The Tank goal shoukd have used more career AHL guys in the lineup ratgercthan add 3 lefut NHLers ...so we must downgrade Davidson's report card...coukd have been better had hecmade an already bad team much worse instead of just treading water in the bad category.

 

[RememberTheRoar]

So ...Davidson's job was to tank and re-build...Thus adding Domi and AA and Mrazek could hurt the Tank to the extent they rise from the expected last 3 (which is what is expected if you really want to tank)to the 6-10 range ....justcenough "help" to ensure the Hawks are not in top 3 lottery position with really goid odds of a shot at Bedard.....The Tank goal shoukd have used more career AHL guys in the lineup ratgercthan add 3 lefut NHLers ...so we must downgrade Davidson's report card...coukd have been better had hecmade an already bad team much worse instead of just treading water in the bad category.

He can/most likely will trade them for draft picks. So we must not downgrade Davidson’s report card for that.

 

[DisgruntledHawkFan]

He can/most likely will trade them for draft picks. So we must not downgrade Davidson’s report card for that.

Quoting fiddy is a waste of time.

 

[Giovi]

Quoting fiddy is a waste of time.

As is expecting him to converse with anyone.

 

[giza]

Yes, tank and make sure you get a high % at the lottery, but you do want to win some games too for crying out loud.....if it wasn't for the horrible goaltending tandem, I think this new Hawks team would be comparable to last years.