Value of: David Savard

[Zegs2sendhelp]

We can trade you Henrique but don’t need Savard or Anderson

 

[Diablo2020]

Pierre Luc Dubois
Alex Wennberg
Brandon Dubinsky's corpse
Josh Anderson
Liam Foudy
CBJ 2020 1st
for
Anze Kopitar
Drew Doughty
CBJ 2020 3rd (previously aquired)

David Savard
for
CBJ 2020 2nd (previously aquired)
CBJ 2021 2nd (previously aquired)

Ryan Murray
Markus Nutivaara
for
Nikita Gusev
Michael Mcleod
CBJ 2022 5th (previously aquired)


Gusev - Kopitar - Bjorkstrand
Foligno - Jenner - Atkinson
Robinson - Nash - Nyquist
Matteau - Texier - Bemstrom
Shore, Mcleod

Werenski - Doughty
Gavrikov - Jones
Harrington - Peeke
Kukan

Merzlikins, Korpisalo

sign Gavrikov 2.0 x2
sign Shore 1.0 x1

23 man roster, 90k under the cap

 

[majormajor]

I think the Jackets look to keep their top-4 of Werenski / Jones and Gavrikov / Savard together for the next 3-5 years. If a move were to happen, I would expect that it would include one of the guys on their 3rd pairing ,(Murray, Nutivaara, or Kukan). I think Peeke is developed more slowly and continues to get 3rd pairing minutes for the next year to two.

Does Seattle get a say in that?

 

[majormajor]

Werenski - Doughty
Gavrikov - Jones
Harrington - Peeke
Kukan

Have you been following Doughty the last couple years? He's not a great defender anymore, and maybe not even a good one. Just no passion and not a guy that has worked hard off ice throughout his career, it has maybe caught up to him. He wouldn't be needed or wanted in Columbus. He makes $11m a year. It's $21m a year for just Kopitar and Doughty, obviously not something teams would want to acquire.

 

[LEAFANFORLIFE23]

IF he's available I wouldn't be totally surprised if he ended up in Toronto

 

[2020 Cup Champions]

We can trade you Henrique but don’t need Savard or Anderson

We don't.... do that here. You have to make a very poor offer for him.

 

[Zegs2sendhelp]

We don't.... do that here. You have to make a very poor offer for him.

Jacob larsson for Anderson

take it or leave it, I know what I have and what it is worth

 

[Crede777]

Does Seattle get a say in that?

Not really. I think the Jackets will protect Jones, Werenski and Gavrikov. Savard will be a UFA at the end of next season and so I doubt Seattle selects him. They are more likely to select whichever of Murray / Kukan / Nutivaara does not get traded. Peeke meanwhile is exempt.

 

[Viqsi]

We can trade you Henrique but don’t need Savard or Anderson

We're not exactly in a position to spare much in the way of picks, either...

 

[Meeqs]

Having trouble finding good ones that would involve Savard, or would be available at all. I have some interest in going after Domi, for example, but Montreal isn't exactly lacking in quality RHDs. And the Monahan rumors are of course interesting, but naturally he'd be expensive as f*** to acquire.

And Tierney's actually short of my standards; I was more thinking of the "and picks" on that one. A better example of the type of guy I'd go for would be someone like Henrique, except Henrique's contract worries me greatly. And I'm not willing to go anywhere near either of the Stromes; they're both entirely the product of superstar wingers. So there's not many options.

Most probable outcome is that we end up tossing Foudy and/or Texier out there, and hoping Jenner can help bring 'em up to speed quickly enough.

That was part of the reason I asked, because at least for me it seems WAY harder to find an availible 2c than it is to find a guy like Savard. I am also interested to see if any deals are found that makes sense though because the idea is intriguing to me

 

[Meeqs]

I really don't think Buffalo does that.

Middle is a bust at this point, they would be wise to move him ASAP before he is actually worthless

 

[Northern Avs Fan]

...actually, if we get that #2C out of the deal, I wouldn't mind too terribly much.

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ERROR: #2C or draft picks not found

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I still want Kadri, but I'd be surprised if Colorado was willing to do that.

Kadri is better than Savard, so I’m not sure how that would work.

 

[dkollidas]

Middle is a bust at this point, they would be wise to move him ASAP before he is actually worthless

I mean he’s a 21yr old who was rushed to the league as a 19-20yr old.

As a kid drafted out of high school who needed conditioning they admittedly jacked up his development. Doesn’t mean he won’t turn into a solid top-6 center.
Reminds me a lot of Kyle Turris. He’ll need time.

 

[LazyCircuits]

I mean he’s a 21yr old who was rushed to the league as a 19-20yr old.

As a kid drafted out of high school who needed conditioning they admittedly jacked up his development. Doesn’t mean he won’t turn into a solid top-6 center.
Reminds me a lot of Kyle Turris. He’ll need time.

All of which is very reasonable and definitely a reason for a team to try and acquire him but that team probably won’t be Columbus.

The forward core has quite a few young guys already and adding more who could be really good in the future is more of the same. The game plan appears to be waiting for Texier, Foudy or both to develop into a second line centre.

I agree with the analysis of Mittelstadt and he is a player I like but I think Jarmo K would more likely try to receive someone further along in their development for Savard.

 

[Meeqs]

I mean he’s a 21yr old who was rushed to the league as a 19-20yr old.

As a kid drafted out of high school who needed conditioning they admittedly jacked up his development. Doesn’t mean he won’t turn into a solid top-6 center.
Reminds me a lot of Kyle Turris. He’ll need time.

Idk if I would use Turris as your example of success lol

 

[Big Muddy]

Does he come with an extension? I dont know if you guys would be interested in Johnsson/Kerfoot. I would be hesitant to offer Kapanen for a soon-to-be 30 year old, but I would be willing to work something out.

I'll echo the idea of Kerfoot because he's a center. I'm not sure how he'd be viewed by CBJ though and wouldn't be offended by the suggestion that he's more of a 3C.

 

[Viqsi]

I'll echo the idea of Kerfoot because he's a center. I'm not sure how he'd be viewed by CBJ though and wouldn't be offended by the suggestion that he's more of a 3C.

We've made that suggestion before. Many times, in fact.

In general, we just don't see him as an upgrade on the guys we already have.

 

[CatchyTune]

Pierre Luc Dubois
Alex Wennberg
Brandon Dubinsky's corpse
Josh Anderson
Liam Foudy
CBJ 2020 1st
for
Anze Kopitar
Drew Doughty
CBJ 2020 3rd (previously aquired)

David Savard
for
CBJ 2020 2nd (previously aquired)
CBJ 2021 2nd (previously aquired)

Ryan Murray
Markus Nutivaara
for
Nikita Gusev
Michael Mcleod
CBJ 2022 5th (previously aquired)


Gusev - Kopitar - Bjorkstrand
Foligno - Jenner - Atkinson
Robinson - Nash - Nyquist
Matteau - Texier - Bemstrom
Shore, Mcleod

Werenski - Doughty
Gavrikov - Jones
Harrington - Peeke
Kukan

Merzlikins, Korpisalo

sign Gavrikov 2.0 x2
sign Shore 1.0 x1

23 man roster, 90k under the cap

What did you just do

 

[Big Muddy]

We've made that suggestion before. Many times, in fact.

In general, we just don't see him as an upgrade on the guys we already have.

OK. No worries. I haven't followed many trade threads from different teams. That's a pretty large undertaking.

I just wondered if there might be something that could be added that would make a trade involving Kerfoot more palatable? If the answer is no, that's OK too.

 

[Cogburn]

Berstrom and Savard for Gaudette, Stecher and Baertschi?

(I value Gaudette as a near certain 2C, Stecher as a top six RHD, and Baertschi as a single year cap dump, worth ~2.3 in the minors).

Gaudette and Baertschi for Savard and MacInnis(please enlighten me if I'm wrong here, MacInnis is a bottom line C/AHL call up, correct?)?

 

[Viqsi]

OK. No worries. I haven't followed many trade threads from different teams. That's a pretty large undertaking.

I just wondered if there might be something that could be added that would make a trade involving Kerfoot more palatable? If the answer is no, that's OK too.

As things presently stand, I can't think of anything. That could change as other moves and news comes in, but right now...

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Berstrom and Savard for Gaudette, Stecher and Baertschi?

(I value Gaudette as a near certain 2C, Stecher as a top six RHD, and Baertschi as a single year cap dump, worth ~2.3 in the minors).

Gaudette and Baertschi for Savard and MacInnis(please enlighten me if I'm wrong here, MacInnis is a bottom line C/AHL call up, correct?)?

Gaudette is definitely interesting (although I'd wonder what sort of contract he's expecting; that could end up torpedoing any interest if he's expecting a lot), but swapping Savard for Stecher is a concern because Stecher isn't anywhere near the defensive stalwart Savard is - we've got a lot of offense-producing defensemen already, after all. So I'm kind of "meh".

 

[majormajor]

Berstrom and Savard for Gaudette, Stecher and Baertschi?

(I value Gaudette as a near certain 2C, Stecher as a top six RHD, and Baertschi as a single year cap dump, worth ~2.3 in the minors).

Gaudette and Baertschi for Savard and MacInnis(please enlighten me if I'm wrong here, MacInnis is a bottom line C/AHL call up, correct?)?

You can forget about Bemstrom.

The second deal might work. I really don't know what to make of Gaudette. I don't have much doubt that he can score 40+ pts but they'll have to do their homework on his complete game and see whether they want him as a 2C. I'm already on record preferring to bet on Texier as 2C, so there's not much need to go for Gaudette unless they really like him.

 

[Cogburn]

Gaudette is definitely interesting (although I'd wonder what sort of contract he's expecting; that could end up torpedoing any interest if he's expecting a lot), but swapping Savard for Stecher is a concern because Stecher isn't anywhere near the defensive stalwart Savard is - we've got a lot of offense-producing defensemen already, after all. So I'm kind of "meh".

In line with our team structure, I'd be thinking below 2.5 for two or three seasons, perhaps as low as 2 million even. Stecher is no stalwart, but he has a great sense of play, has filled in well as a top 4 for extended stints, has a great motor, and my only real complaint as a 4/5/6 guy is his size. His defensive play is above average but no one would get him confused with Tanev on this team.

You can forget about Bemstrom.

The second deal might work. I really don't know what to make of Gaudette. I don't have much doubt that he can score 40+ pts but they'll have to do their homework on his complete game and see whether they want him as a 2C. I'm already on record preferring to bet on Texier as 2C, so there's not much need to go for Gaudette unless they really like him.

My autocorrect is hyperactive, but I wanted to gauge value. If Bemstrom and Texier are sticking around, and they seem to be developping well, then I suppose I am curious as to why a 2C is the enthusiastic return some Blue Jackets are looking for? Thats not me being smart, I'm honestly curious.

As for Gaudette, I see him as a 20 goal, 50 poimt guy if we can get him a left winger, and/or some top six time. He's playing well with Virtanen, and I'd love to see a skilled LW for them to play with, but our D is kind of all over the place right now. Keeping Tanev and adding Savard would keep things locked down a lot better for us, but if its not a fit, I am very happy to keep Gaudette.

 

[Jerkbait]

Toronto isn't going to trade Kapanen for one season of 30 year-old defenceman.

Depends who the D man is .....

 

[Viqsi]

My autocorrect is hyperactive, but I wanted to gauge value. If Bemstrom and Texier are sticking around, and they seem to be developping well, then I suppose I am curious as to why a 2C is the enthusiastic return some Blue Jackets are looking for? Thats not me being smart, I'm honestly curious.

As for Gaudette, I see him as a 20 goal, 50 poimt guy if we can get him a left winger, and/or some top six time. He's playing well with Virtanen, and I'd love to see a skilled LW for them to play with, but our D is kind of all over the place right now. Keeping Tanev and adding Savard would keep things locked down a lot better for us, but if its not a fit, I am very happy to keep Gaudette.

Because Bemstrom is developing as a wing, and that might also be where Texier ultimately ends up - the plan was to have him take a few more minutes at C as the season went on, but then he became one of our earlier injury casualties.