Value of: David Savard to Toronto

[mitchthemitch]

What would it take?
(Cap has to go the other way obviously)

Click to read more...

 

[Ctrain2k]

Wouldn’t make sense for Columbus to move him, it’ll probably take a big overpayment.

 

[Makar Goes Fast]

lol silly leaf fan, Colorado has dibs on all future ex Columbus players

 

[DictatorTots427]

This is another player where it doesn't really work for the Leafs unless we can send back Zaitsev, which makes it not work for most contending teams, so why even bother?

 

[HoweHullOrr]

What would it take?
(Cap has to go the other way obviously)

Do you mean Zaitsev? IF so, then Leafs will need to add decent assets to make this worthwhile for CBJ.

 

[CoachWithNoTeam]

A top 6 forward for a top 4 defenseman.

He would be hard to replace in Columbus. Likely Gavrikov will be coming over next season so he’s one of the pieces that could help replace Savard. It is still a very young group of Jones, Werenski, Murray and Nutivaara plus Gavrikov, with decent depth like Harrington, Kukan, and a pretty good prospect in Carlsson. It’s easy to see how he could potentially be an odd man out in the future, or at least his trade value could exceed his role on the team. But he’s definitely a core member of the defense. He’s been top 2 or 3 time on ice for the last 4-5 years.

With the group of Jones, Werenski, and Murray, he’s probably no longer relied on to be a top 3 defenseman, but he likely would be one of the top 3 in Toronto. So Savards value would probably be not one of the top 3 forwards on Toronto but one of the other next best.

 

[Ctrain2k]

A top 6 forward for a top 4 defenseman.

He would be hard to replace in Columbus. Likely Gavrikov will be coming over next season so he’s one of the pieces that could help replace Savard. It is still a very young group of Jones, Werenski, Murray and Nutivaara plus Gavrikov, with decent depth like Harrington, Kukan, and a pretty good prospect in Carlsson. It’s easy to see how he could potentially be an odd man out in the future, or at least his trade value could exceed his role on the team. But he’s definitely a core member of the defense. He’s been top 2 or 3 time on ice for the last 4-5 years.

With the group of Jones, Werenski, and Murray, he’s probably no longer relied on to be a top 3 defenseman, but he likely would be one of the top 3 in Toronto. So Savards value would probably be not one of the top 3 forwards on Toronto but one of the other next best.

That’s the thing, there’s a catastrophic gap in value between Toronto’s top 3 forwards and their next best.

 

[RantanenRavin]

That’s the thing, there’s a catastrophic gap in value between Toronto’s top 3 forwards and their next best.

How many teams top 3 consist of 3 players like Tavares, Mathews and Marner though? The only other teams that can even compare in my opinion are Pittsburgh, Colorado, Tampa and Boston, and even then, its debatable st best

 

[shortfuze]

This is another player where it doesn't really work for the Leafs unless we can send back Zaitsev, which makes it not work for most contending teams, so why even bother?

You realize they can trade zaitsev before this trade.

 

[Viqsi]

Call us in the summer if we're unable to retain Duchene, and have Kadri's bags packed in advance.

 

[howkie]

What would it take?
(Cap has to go the other way obviously)

Kadri? I think that would work

 

[ER89]

nah cbj would want naz and I don't want to do that.

 

[4thline]

Call us in the summer if we're unable to retain Duchene, and have Kadri's bags packed in advance.

Good hockey trade, makes sense. Would try to weasel a pick for the extra year Naz is under contract

 

[mikeyp24]

Good hockey trade, makes sense. Would try to weasel a pick for the extra year Naz is under contract

Did you watch the TDL? We dont have the pick you are looking for.

 

[GOilers88]

How many teams top 3 consist of 3 players like Tavares, Mathews and Marner though? The only other teams that can even compare in my opinion are Pittsburgh, Colorado, Tampa and Boston, and even then, its debatable st best

I think there's quite a few teams who have a top three equal to Toronto. Even Edmonton.

 

[3074326]

Kadri seems like solid value for both teams.

 

[RantanenRavin]

I think there's quite a few teams who have a top three equal to Toronto. Even Edmonton.

While everyone is certainly entitled to their opinion, I disagree with yours wholeheartedly. In what world are Nugent-Hopkins and Marner equal?

 

[GOilers88]

While everyone is certainly entitled to their opinion, I disagree with yours wholeheartedly. In what world are Nugent-Hopkins and Marner equal?

In the same world that Matthews is equal to McDavid?
I'd say McDavid, Draisaitl and RNH are just as good a top three as Matthews, Marner and Tavares.

Seguin, Benn and Radulov.
Scheifele, Wheeler and Connor.
Kucherov, Stamkos and Point.
Crosby, Malkin and Kessell.
Ovechkin, Backstrom and Kuznetsov.
Bergeron, Pastrnak and Marchand.
MacKinnon, Rantanen and Landeskog.

I think they're all pretty comparable as a group. If you want to break it down and compare individual players you go right ahead, but as groups it's all pretty close.

 

[cslebn]

lol silly leaf fan, Colorado has dibs on all future ex Columbus players

You forgot the LAK formula of trade with CBJ and win cup has dibbs

 

[Pyrophorus]

Just wait for Lil and Sandin.

 

[LoovTrain]

That’s the thing, there’s a catastrophic gap in value between Toronto’s top 3 forwards and their next best.

Lol... coming from an Oilers fan... rich.

 

[93gilmour93]

If the leafs were to trade an asset for a D man Savard isn't the guy the leafs should go after. Pass from Toronto

 

[CBJx614]

I could get behind a Kadri/Savard deal.

 

[Kamiccolo]

If the leafs were to trade an asset for a D man Savard isn't the guy the leafs should go after. Pass from Toronto

Especially given the names being thrown around as the return.

 

[3074326]

Especially given the names being thrown around as the return.

I only see two players discussed in trades in this thread. Zaitsev and Kadri. Kadri for Savard seems pretty even.