Confirmed with Link: Dave Hakstol has been fired; Scott Gordon named interim head coach

[Harhis]

Still not fired?

 

[deadhead]

I mean if people really think Lehtera's 7 minutes are the reason this team doesn't win, or playing AMac over Folin, they are living in delusionville.

Hakstol lost the team this year, the same way Lavi lost the team six years ago, but firing Lavi didn't make this a good team, firing Hakstol doesn't make this a good team. (no, I'm not equating the two, I'm just pointing out that firing a coach doesn't fix fundamental flaws). They had a bounce back year under Berube, but that didn't make Berube a good coach or the Flyers a better team.

Point is this team has some serious flaws that no coach can paper over.
Until you fix the goalies, rework the front 9 and balance the defense, this team will remain mediocre.

 

[Embiid]

 

[Outlaw Samurai]

 

[Outlaw Samurai]

 

[BrindamoursNose]

I'm buying into the firing...mainly because it just makes too much sense.

 

[Outlaw Samurai]

 

[kelmitchell]

This will he deadhead after haktard gets the boot off of the moving plane

 

[Embiid]

They should make Hak empty the shitter.....

 

[baudib1]

I mean if people really think Lehtera's 7 minutes are the reason this team doesn't win, or playing AMac over Folin, they are living in delusionville.

Hakstol lost the team this year, the same way Lavi lost the team six years ago, but firing Lavi didn't make this a good team, firing Hakstol doesn't make this a good team. (no, I'm not equating the two, I'm just pointing out that firing a coach doesn't fix fundamental flaws). They had a bounce back year under Berube, but that didn't make Berube a good coach or the Flyers a better team.

Point is this team has some serious flaws that no coach can paper over.
Until you fix the goalies, rework the front 9 and balance the defense, this team will remain mediocre.

No. Basically all of the problems with the team have to do with the coach and/or the health of the goalies, which is a coaching-related problem. The team has suffered some bad variance as well, but mostly when you have this much talent and the league's worst PK and one of the worst PPs that's on the coaching staff. Hakstol is the fundamental flaw.

 

[Embiid]

Hakstol and the Flyers theme song

 

[The Madrigal]

I mean if people really think Lehtera's 7 minutes are the reason this team doesn't win, or playing AMac over Folin, they are living in delusionville.

Hakstol lost the team this year, the same way Lavi lost the team six years ago, but firing Lavi didn't make this a good team, firing Hakstol doesn't make this a good team. (no, I'm not equating the two, I'm just pointing out that firing a coach doesn't fix fundamental flaws). They had a bounce back year under Berube, but that didn't make Berube a good coach or the Flyers a better team.

Point is this team has some serious flaws that no coach can paper over.
Until you fix the goalies, rework the front 9 and balance the defense, this team will remain mediocre.

Your old hero is the one who put together that flawed roster. The same roster you indirectly defended all summer when you defended him. I used to think you were just some weird numbers obsessed long winded milton type, but your recent defense of Hakstol makes it pretty clear that you are nothing more than a second rate troll.

 

[Beef Invictus]

San Filippo seems to think Gostisbehere is falling out of flavor with the organization fwiw.

The return would have to be absolutely stupid for the other team to make it worthwhile for us. Ghost is one of the most cap efficient assets in the league.

 

[Hurricane28]

Anyone going to practice at 12:30 tomorrow? Feel like it may be an interesting one

 

[Beef Invictus]

I mean if people really think Lehtera's 7 minutes are the reason this team doesn't win, or playing AMac over Folin, they are living in delusionville.

Hakstol lost the team this year, the same way Lavi lost the team six years ago, but firing Lavi didn't make this a good team, firing Hakstol doesn't make this a good team. (no, I'm not equating the two, I'm just pointing out that firing a coach doesn't fix fundamental flaws). They had a bounce back year under Berube, but that didn't make Berube a good coach or the Flyers a better team.

Point is this team has some serious flaws that no coach can paper over.
Until you fix the goalies, rework the front 9 and balance the defense, this team will remain mediocre.

What happened to your proclamation that the roster is finally good enough to judge Hakstol?

Crazy how when Hakstol blew it you've decided that wait, no, it can't be his fault, the roster actually sucked.

If you're trying to avoid being wrong, it's not working. You're wrong either way in the end.

 

[Flyers Faithful]

Fire Quenneville

Blick?

 

[baudib1]

Also it's not just Lehtera 7 minutes a night. It's a cascade of problems that that creates, and it's when he gets those minutes. Matching him up in bad situations, putting most of the team's players in bad spots; playing AMac 20 minutes and Sanheim 10; not using timeouts when the team suddenly goes down 3-0; not rotating his defensemen appropriately when the team has multiple PKs; playing goalies B2B games; putting Weise on the PP. There's got to be 30 dumb decisions per game, if you don't think those add up to real losses you're kidding yourself.

Not to mention the fact that Hakstol's basic systems and philosophies are terrible.

 

[Sombastate]

Man, i woke up with hope in my heart and a pep in my step.

I'm gonna go to sleep with nothing but heart break and anxiety

 

[Rich Nixon]

Also it's not just Lehtera 7 minutes a night. It's a cascade of problems that that creates, and it's when he gets those minutes. Matching him up in bad situations, putting most of the team's players in bad spots; playing AMac 20 minutes and Sanheim 10; not using timeouts when the team suddenly goes down 3-0; not rotating his defensemen appropriately when the team has multiple PKs; playing goalies B2B games; putting Weise on the PP. There's got to be 30 dumb decisions per game, if you don't think those add up to real losses you're kidding yourself.

Not to mention the fact that Hakstol's basic systems and philosophies are terrible.

Yeah, we've all beaten these dead horses (sorry PETA!) so badly they don't even look like horses anymore. Just amorphous, hideous lumps of bad decisions and arrogance, scattered far as the eyes can see. We're all covered in cold horse blood right now. It's been horrible and mindnumbing.

I'm frankly done talking about it. There's nothing to debate or point out or argue. Yes, the team has other flaws, but anyone who doesn't acknowledge the overarching compendium of issues that coaching contaminated this team with is either an invalid or creating strawmen left and right to get their contrarian kicks. It's bad, we know it's bad, it's soon to be over. Hell, it is over, and I don't want to f***ing think about it now, or ever again.

 

[Sombastate]

Yeah, we've all beaten these dead horses (sorry PETA!) so badly they don't even look like horses anymore

Beat them into hockey skates and put them on the second line.

I hear ya.

 

[DancingPanther]

Yep. Looking forward to reading this board now that certain posters won't be denigrating our top posters in defense of Hakstol because we'll be wining games.

You use this word winning. They still don't have a goalie, and the defense still features slumping Ghost, slumping Provorov, and Folin.

But they will be faster, promising, and exciting again

 

[baudib1]

You use this word winning. They still don't have a goalie, and the defense still features slumping Ghost, slumping Provorov, and Folin.

But they will be faster, promising, and exciting again

They'll make the playoffs.

 

[Embiid]

 

[BillDineen]

Today happens to be my birthday and the best birthday present of my entire life will be the firing of this bum.

 

[Hurricane28]

When report came out that no decision was made: