Damien Brunner

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He will cement the second line...
And make this a very deep line-up.

Yes please.
 

Kirk Mclean

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I just don't understand why Gillis continues to dance around the problem of not enough scoring. That's whats wrong with the team, so fix it.

Gillis seems like he's almost too stubborn and doesn't want to admit that guys like Higgins and Booth will never score in the playoffs.
 

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sign him to a PTO first......one of the young guns could be better and take the spot instead

Sign him to a contract, and if a prospect(s) impress, we have very good depth. I'd bank on Brunner making the Canucks over Shinkaruk, Gaunce, Horvat, Jensen.
 

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sign him to a PTO first......one of the young guns could be better and take the spot instead

Doubt that. Brunner scored at a 22 goal 48 point pace in his 1st year in the league. He also led his team in playoff goals. He reminds me a lot of Mikael Samuelsson and at under 2 million would be a wonderful addition.
 

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In the NHL where teams are always looking for offense, there's a reason why Brunner hasn't been signed yet,
and that there's too many deficiencies in his game.
He only played for 1.35M last year so it's not likely it's salary related and he's asking for too much.

All teams could use offense including Detroit. So why would a team like that, who's better than most teams in
judging, cultivating, and keeping their own talent, cut him loose?

Maybe he's not good enough to play in the NHL, even though he did score 26 points.

Some team desperate for Top 6 scoring depth would of signed him by now.
 

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In the NHL where teams are always looking for offense, there's a reason why Brunner hasn't been signed yet,
and that there's too many deficiencies in his game.
He only played for 1.35M last year so it's not likely it's salary related and he's asking for too much.

All teams could use offense including Detroit. So why would a team like that, who's better than most teams in
judging, cultivating, and keeping their own talent, cut him loose?

Maybe he's not good enough to play in the NHL, even though he did score 26 points.

Some team desperate for Top 6 scoring depth would of signed him by now.

Sounds like you're making inferences based on absolutely nothing at all. Brunner is a good player.
 

PG Canuck

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In the NHL where teams are always looking for offense, there's a reason why Brunner hasn't been signed yet,
and that there's too many deficiencies in his game.
He only played for 1.35M last year so it's not likely it's salary related and he's asking for too much.

All teams could use offense including Detroit. So why would a team like that, who's better than most teams in
judging, cultivating, and keeping their own talent, cut him loose?

Maybe he's not good enough to play in the NHL, even though he did score 26 points.

Some team desperate for Top 6 scoring depth would of signed him by now.

So you're saying there's no possibility he's just asking for too much money? :huh: Brunner has a pretty good playoffs, so I don't think you can truly rule out the fact he's just wanting more money than teams may be willing to dish out to him. It's not like players haven't been paid after having a good playoffs before, most recently, Bryan Bickell, who is making 4M after one good playoffs.
 

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In the NHL where teams are always looking for offense, there's a reason why Brunner hasn't been signed yet,
and that there's too many deficiencies in his game.
He only played for 1.35M last year so it's not likely it's salary related and he's asking for too much.

All teams could use offense including Detroit. So why would a team like that, who's better than most teams in
judging, cultivating, and keeping their own talent, cut him loose?

Maybe he's not good enough to play in the NHL, even though he did score 26 points.

Some team desperate for Top 6 scoring depth would of signed him by now.

Do you think Mason Raymond is good enough to play in the NHL? Detroit wanted Brunner back, but I guess Brunner miss judged the market.
 

PG Canuck

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Do you think Mason Raymond is good enough to play in the NHL? Detroit wanted Brunner back, but I guess Brunner miss judged the market.

His agent seems to be on the bad-side for advice, and looks to be making all the wrong decisions for Brunner. He had a chance to stay with the Wings, but with Brunner holding out so long, Detroit used their cap space to sign Weiss, sign Alfredsson, and re-sign Cleary. Brunner is now out of luck in regards to signing in Detroit.
 

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Yeah, the offer from Detroit was probably the best he was going to get. He's only played in the NHL for half a season and, as an NHL-player, he's still unproven.
 

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In the NHL where teams are always looking for offense, there's a reason why Brunner hasn't been signed yet,
and that there's too many deficiencies in his game.
He only played for 1.35M last year so it's not likely it's salary related and he's asking for too much.

All teams could use offense including Detroit. So why would a team like that, who's better than most teams in
judging, cultivating, and keeping their own talent, cut him loose?

Maybe he's not good enough to play in the NHL, even though he did score 26 points.

Some team desperate for Top 6 scoring depth would of signed him by now.


I think you have the right of it with the point made about too many deficiencies. For a similar reason, DET let go of Hudler a while back too. Good offense, suspect defense and size. Board work was also lacking. So there are a couple of reasons besides money for Brunner to still be on the market right now.

He wouldn't be a bad option here. He has skill. Still, I wonder how much Kesler could bring out of him? Odds are he goes to DAL I think...
 

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In the NHL where teams are always looking for offense, there's a reason why Brunner hasn't been signed yet,
and that there's too many deficiencies in his game.
He only played for 1.35M last year so it's not likely it's salary related and he's asking for too much.

All teams could use offense including Detroit. So why would a team like that, who's better than most teams in
judging, cultivating, and keeping their own talent, cut him loose?


Maybe he's not good enough to play in the NHL, even though he did score 26 points.

Some team desperate for Top 6 scoring depth would of signed him by now.

Detroit was over the cap before signing Cleary...so it's not that they cut him loose, they simply decided they would rather spend their money elsewhere....

Fact is, the Canucks are a team that is going to struggle to score and a guy like Brunner provides offense in our top 6. He's also one of the better shootout specialists in the game which is something we've never had. I see very little risk in signing him, however I don't know what his contract demands are. I'm guessing that they will have to decrease since the season is a mere 2 weeks away.
 

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Detroit was over the cap before signing Cleary...so it's not that they cut him loose, they simply decided they would rather spend their money elsewhere....

Fact is, the Canucks are a team that is going to struggle to score and a guy like Brunner provides offense in our top 6. He's also one of the better shootout specialists in the game which is something we've never had. I see very little risk in signing him, however I don't know what his contract demands are. I'm guessing that they will have to decrease since the season is a mere 2 weeks away.


Scoring can be resolved through different means. If the bottom6 scores more, then that should resolve issues right there. Instead of investing in Brunner, I hope the Canucks go after another C to make sure that the bottom6 Cs are strong as a group. In turn, guys like Santorelli and Richardson can be pushed to the wing, which is a part of their versatility. The wing positions should be OK at that point.

Brunner is a nice asset to have on the cheap, but I think the bigger 'concern' is definitely at C for this team.
 

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Scoring can be resolved through different means. If the bottom6 scores more, then that should resolve issues right there. Instead of investing in Brunner, I hope the Canucks go after another C to make sure that the bottom6 Cs are strong as a group. In turn, guys like Santorelli and Richardson can be pushed to the wing, which is a part of their versatility. The wing positions should be OK at that point.

Brunner is a nice asset to have on the cheap, but I think the bigger 'concern' is definitely at C for this team.

We'd have to acquire a centre via trade or waivers then, because there aren't any worthy free agents left.

Check out the remaining centres. Gross!!

http://www.capgeek.com/free-agents?year_id=2013&team_id=-1&position_id=C&fa_type_id=2
 

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Speaking of Detroit being over the cap Id sure like to pry Tootoo of their hands for our 4th line spot instead of Weise :DDD as long as he hits like he used to. Reminds me of a Torres, hits bigger then he looks can actually pot a goal if set up.
 

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It may be that Brunner's asking price is still too high. For instance, his agent could be seeking 2-2.5M while no team is offering more than 1.5M.
 

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We'd have to acquire a centre via trade or waivers then, because there aren't any worthy free agents left.

Check out the remaining centres. Gross!!

http://www.capgeek.com/free-agents?year_id=2013&team_id=-1&position_id=C&fa_type_id=2

I dunno man, Prab Rai's still out there. Homegrown talent and everything. :sarcasm:

If Booth isn't ready to go, I'd be really interested in Brunner if one of the kids here wasn't ready to go. Yeah, I know, but in order for the Canucks to really compete, we need some of that new blood to step up and grab the brass ring. Hell, I'd grab Brunner anyway if Booth ends up on LTIR.
 

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We would have a different looking lineup. 2M is the highest I would go but that would leave us with about 247K and well we don't want that. If it wasn't for Booth's contract I would love to have him.
 

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Scoring can be resolved through different means. If the bottom6 scores more, then that should resolve issues right there. Instead of investing in Brunner, I hope the Canucks go after another C to make sure that the bottom6 Cs are strong as a group. In turn, guys like Santorelli and Richardson can be pushed to the wing, which is a part of their versatility. The wing positions should be OK at that point.

Brunner is a nice asset to have on the cheap, but I think the bigger 'concern' is definitely at C for this team.

So what you're saying is, if any of our lines score more that'll help our scoring? That sounds overly simplistic. However, unless you're suggesting that our 4th line start scoring like a 2nd line which is completely unrealistic I don't think the improvements will be anything but marginal.
 

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So what you're saying is, if any of our lines score more that'll help our scoring? That sounds overly simplistic. However, unless you're suggesting that our 4th line start scoring like a 2nd line which is completely unrealistic I don't think the improvements will be anything but marginal.


Opendoor posted a comparison of the bottom6 scoring during the 2011 run. I think it was something like 5 goals among the entire group, total. Which when compared to other SC winners fell well short, and when compared to other conference teams also fell short.

If the bottom6 gets up to the even standard levels, that's a market improvement. Be it the 4th line matching normative 4th line standards, or the 3rd line doing the same. If both lines did it, then the team is sitting in a very good position in terms of consistent scoring overall. The bottom6 is that important.
 

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Sedin-Sedin-Brunner
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We would have a different looking lineup. 2M is the highest I would go but that would leave us with about 247K and well we don't want that. If it wasn't for Booth's contract I would love to have him.

Look good. I'd give Burrows-Kesler-Kassian a look though, along with Burrows-Kesler-Hansen.
 

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According to Rotoworld, Vancouver is a possibility as to where he ends up.

I would LOVE this guy. He would come relatively cheap, could slot into the top 6 and give us a decent scoring winger. His shootout skills will be something we have sorely missed in the past, too.

Would you guys sign him to a 1 year, 1.5 million deal?

Yes.

He has more skill on one finger then Clarkson and more skill on one finger nail as Clowe yet he's the one without a contract. :shakehead

Sad state the NHL is in when drooling dogs outbeat skill by this margin. Maybe Gillis should do what he said he was going to do and lead the league toward a skill game. Rather then copycat the dog game.

I would even go so far as to waive Booth to sign Brunner. He would be similar to the Sammuelson and Demitra signings as far as abilities goes.
 

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