yababy
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Seguin is an UFA after next year. You won't get that return for him - plus the playoff failures
Benn makes 9.5M - his return also limited.
I think you're better off keeping these 2
Speculation: Dallas Stars Fire sale at the draft
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Seguin is an UFA after next year. You won't get that return for him - plus the playoff failures
Benn makes 9.5M - his return also limited.
I think you're better off keeping these 2
ManofSteel55
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I wish we didn't lose Pitlick, but I don't think our management would give up much to get him either, sadly.
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They should do what Sakic did with the Avs. Keep the core (maybe subtract one that isn't fitting right, like Spezza) but take a blowtorch to all the surrounding trash and replace that with better young players. I have no idea what they have in their system but it has to be better than what they're icing now, right? Someone like Honka should not be getting regularly benched, and if the coach won't cooperate with a youth movement, he needs to go.
If that fails, and it might if their drafting hasn't gone well, then it's time to blow it up to get those high end pieces to build a new core.
If that fails, and it might if their drafting hasn't gone well, then it's time to blow it up to get those high end pieces to build a new core.
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Any team trading for Seguin would do so with full intention of locking him up so yeah he would net a return like that. Also if for some reason a team just wants him as a rental the price would still be stupidly high. Look at what Nash got then consider that Seguin is younger, cheaper and a lot better.
Dallas would be dumb to not try an lock him up but if we decided to burn it down he will bring back a shit ton. I agree on Benn that for the return to be solid we would have to retain a chunk simply because moving 9.5 is hard to do
Alberta_OReilly_Fan
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seguins entering his ufa season... the talk always boils down to, do these type of players think their team is doing enough to win? would it be fun getting stuck in this type of team for the next 7-8 years if theres no clear cut plan to be competitive?
dallas needs to figure out what they are doing with seguin before they can figure out what they are doing with the rest of the team. theres too much talent to bottom feed and collect high draft picks... but not enough talent to be a true contender.
getting stuck in the middle is the wrong place to be.
I wouldn't blow it up... get seguin signed and try to improve depth
dallas needs to figure out what they are doing with seguin before they can figure out what they are doing with the rest of the team. theres too much talent to bottom feed and collect high draft picks... but not enough talent to be a true contender.
getting stuck in the middle is the wrong place to be.
I wouldn't blow it up... get seguin signed and try to improve depth
I agree.
Aside from this thread, is there any sense that the management might actually blow it up? I really don't think that team is that far from being a winner, especially with Bishop (injuries aside).
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Extend Seguin and still have lots of cap room to address other issues.
Lehtonen is off the books this off-season. After next season Methot (4.9), Speeza (7.5), Niemi (1.5). That's a lot of cap space to add quality depth.
Then add in a few prospects turning out (specifically Heiskanen) and the Stars could be really good after next season.
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He is a UFA and I think Dallas is better off replacing him internally so he will go to the highest bidder
Hischier and Hughes
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This is what Ive been hearing for Dallas for some years now since they got Seguin
Eventually that ‘year or two’ has to be now
TrillMike
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It was supposed to this year. Injuries and secondary scoring were an issue this year.
Albus Dumbledore
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but they're still young and in prime shape, in a few years some players will be falling out of it, hence why they still have a bit more time.
Hischier and Hughes
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I am so fed up with Danyeko’s ‘OHH’ on every single play.
He needs to go. Its not even funny at this point.
He needs to go. Its not even funny at this point.
Dr Pepper
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Ok, we'll trade you Craig Ludwig for him. One ex-nhler for another.
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In the spirit of the asking price for Seguin, I'll take a stab at it.
Carolina Trades
Noah Hanifin
2018 1st
Janne Kuokkanen
Dallas Trades
Tyler Seguin
Dallas gets a cost-controlled, potential top line D-man to pair with Klingberg. Also gets a lottery pick in this year's deep draft. I put Janne Kuokkanen down because he's a solid B level prospect, but in actuality, I'd be willing to give up any Carolina prospect that's not Martin Necas. I don't know what Dallas' needs are, but there's also Jake Bean, Haydn Fleury, Julien Gauthier, etc.
Carolina Trades
Noah Hanifin
2018 1st
Janne Kuokkanen
Dallas Trades
Tyler Seguin
Dallas gets a cost-controlled, potential top line D-man to pair with Klingberg. Also gets a lottery pick in this year's deep draft. I put Janne Kuokkanen down because he's a solid B level prospect, but in actuality, I'd be willing to give up any Carolina prospect that's not Martin Necas. I don't know what Dallas' needs are, but there's also Jake Bean, Haydn Fleury, Julien Gauthier, etc.
Unfortunately, Stars seem past the need for more D, after trading Seguin, would be more in need of a top scorer at the moment. But, probably a good offer value wise from Stars standpoint.
Fair enough. Unfortunately as well, Carolina has the same needs. Only forwards I'd be willing to part with in a Seguin deal is Elias Lindholm or Victor Rask. Rask has shown the ability to be a solid 3C or low-end 2C, but had an off year, possibly due to lingering injury. Lindholm is a solid top 6 forward, consistent 40pt player. Hasn't quite lived up to expectations, but most Canes fans believe he's still capable of more.
BiPolar Caps
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Capitals currently with both Holtby and Grubauer along with Samsonov expected to come over this summer, they'll need to shed a goalie. Bishop seems fragile, so Caps offer Holtby (Lehtonen will be a UFA) to the Stars with the caveat that they would also have to take Brooks Orpik who'll be in the last year of his contract (Hamhuis will be a UFA). The benefit for the Capitals will be that they'll be shedding salary (Holtby 6.1/Orpik 5+). Holtby's salary is about 200k more than Lehtonens while Hamhuis and Roussel's departures will make Orpik's salary a wash. Since the Caps require Orpik to be part of the deal, the Caps asking price will be less for the whole package, two second rounders ('18 and '19) from Dallas.
Hitch has done such a fantastic job defensively I am not sure they can be that much better next season.
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While I would love to add Holtby to the Stars', I really don't want to be spending $10mil on two goalies again. If we could magically move Bishop somewhere after this, I would definitely do it.
Spezza declined, Hanzal was/is injured, some young guys who needed to chip in more goals like last year (Ritchie, Shore) didn't. That's it.
