HF Habs: Current Standings Thread: Wrong Way for Wright (mid-season edition)

[Frankenheimer]

Wait didn't the trade we make with the Yotes stipulate that whoever has the HIGHER pick in the top 10 goes to the Habs? So if lets say both the Habs and Yotes are drawing for 1st overall even if the Yotes win that pick goes to us anyways? That's how I saw the trade unless someone can correct me.

You’re forgetting we don’t have the rights to their pick. If they win the lottery, they’re getting first overall.

 

[Canadienna]

Wait didn't the trade we make with the Yotes stipulate that whoever has the HIGHER pick in the top 10 goes to the Habs? So if lets say both the Habs and Yotes are drawing for 1st overall even if the Yotes win that pick goes to us anyways? That's how I saw the trade unless someone can correct me.

Lol I wish!

That would have essentially been Dvorak + 1st upgrade for a 2nd.

Instead its whichever of the Habs two picks (CAR and MTL) is better (closer to 1) the Habs keep (As long as one is in bottom 10). Has nothing to do with AZ pick.

 

[Galaxydoggystyle]

Lol I wish!

That would have essentially been Dvorak + 1st upgrade for a 2nd.

Instead its whichever of the Habs two picks (CAR and MTL) is better (closer to 1) the Habs keep (As long as one is in bottom 10). Has nothing to do with AZ pick.

Yeah for some reason my mind was thinking the pick was between us and the Yotes I totally forgot about the Canes and losing KK and my dumb ass got all excited LOL!! Yeah ok the trade makes more sense now for the Yotes.

 

[Rapala]

@MarkovsKnee, re: Gally not wanting to be part of a rebuild. He didn’t outright say it, but it can be inferred I suppose:

Canadiens' Brendan Gallagher has high praise for Marc Bergevin | Montreal Gazette

The GM put our organization in a tough spot starting with Price. He had to pay far above market value with ridiculous term just to keep the player around. He did the same with Gallagher and pissed off Danault while doing so. There was always a stink associated with those contracts. Fortunately for Price he still has some redeeming qualities to his game. Gallagher not so much. This kind of confirms what many of us felt all along. The players went all in on a couple of gifted post seasons but realize they can't compete in a normal setting. The No Where Land Effect.

 

[Galaxydoggystyle]

Yup MB pretty much f***ed this team because of some cinderella run. This team should have been dismantled as soon as MB heard that both Weber AND Price were basically out for the season. How can anyone with half a brain think a team would function without there number one defender and goalie is beyond me. It is also kind of sad that MB was crying not to lose Gallagher so he got his fat contract. MB was great when it came to trading but anything else was just terrible. You cannot have a emotional attachment to a player when you are the head of a hockey team especially when it comes to the Habs.

 

[themilosh]

I would try to grab Edmonton’s 2023 1st rounder. They’re a McDrai injury away from being a bottom team again.

I wish more GMs would have forward thinking like this.. I think Gorton is that type of mind - as many of his trades have 'side bets" like if 2 rounds of playoffs then 2nd rounder becomes 1st (type of thing). Unless Im unaware, why have no GMs ever tried to figure out team cycles --- and say hey EDM we'll give you price now for 2 x 1st rnders (2031, 2032)?

 

[rahad]

Should have traded Gallagher last January 2021. With his history of injury and his big contract, he is not worth much. They will also ask us to take a bad contract for him.

 

[Captain97]

We are so unlikely to get Wright. Even if we manage to out-tank the Coyotes, we’ll have a 1 in 6 shot (16.6%) at getting the 1st overall pick. It’s much more likely someone else gets it. We can’t get too attached to the idea of Shane Wright in Montreal.

If we stay at 31st, we’re guaranteed a top 4 pick which is great.

Last is actually about 1 in 4 to get 1st overall it's the 16% + 12-16's odds of winning 1st because they cant win it.

 

[Big Empty]

Last is actually about 1 in 4 to get 1st overall it's the 16% + 12-16's odds of winning 1st because they cant win it.

@montreal just posted the chart, you’re right.

 

[montreal]

We are so unlikely to get Wright. Even if we manage to out-tank the Coyotes, we’ll have a 1 in 6 shot (16.6%) at getting the 1st overall pick. It’s much more likely someone else gets it. We can’t get too attached to the idea of Shane Wright in Montreal.

If we stay at 31st, we’re guaranteed a top 4 pick which is great.

2022 NHL Draft Lottery Odds | Tankathon

 

[Big Empty]

2022 NHL Draft Lottery Odds | Tankathon

I’m not proud of how much time I’ve spent on that site.

 

[L4br3cqu3]

2022 NHL Draft Lottery Odds | Tankathon

Am I the only one who thinks these odds are f***ing ridiculous ? 2nd place has more chances to pick 3rd or 4th than 2nd ? Wtf...

 

[WeThreeKings]

Philly & Vancouver with wins last night, so that's good.

Buffalo is a real problem again.

 

[WinterLion]

Philly & Vancouver with wins last night, so that's good.

Buffalo is a real problem again.

Yeah Buffalo and Seattle...

 

[Sagikev]

Philly & Vancouver with wins last night, so that's good.

Buffalo is a real problem again.

I mean, for now we have like 2 to 4 games in hand and we're still 2nd last. I highly doubt we ever get passed the bottom 5 lol, especially if we trade some pieces like Chiarot, Gally or Toffoli

 

[WeThreeKings]

I mean, for now we have like 2 to 4 games in hand and we're still 2nd last. I highly doubt we ever get passed the bottom 5 lol, especially if we trade some pieces like Chiarot, Gally or Toffoli

Need as big of a buffer as possible for the time between Price's return and when we start selling.

 

[FrankMTL]

The good news (and the most important for us), is that between us and the 10th place team (we keep our pick if it's in the top 10), there's a 10 point difference and the 10th place team (New Jersey) has 3 games in hand. So even if New Jersey plays for .500 in those 3 games, that would give them a 13 point cushion over us.

 

[FrankMTL]

Serious question, are the 2021-2022 Coyotes one of the worst NHL teams ever? I mean, we stink too, but we also have a ton of injuries and haven't had our best player most nights (Price) since the start of the season.

 

[BehindTheTimes]

Serious question, are the 2021-2022 Coyotes one of the worst NHL teams ever? I mean, we stink too, but we also have a ton of injuries and haven't had our best player most nights (Price) since the start of the season.

Those in glass houses shouldn’t throw stones. We are just as bad.

 

[WeThreeKings]

Serious question, are the 2021-2022 Coyotes one of the worst NHL teams ever? I mean, we stink too, but we also have a ton of injuries and haven't had our best player most nights (Price) since the start of the season.

One of the worst non-expansion teams yes.. but Buffalo the year they got Eichel was worse, easily.

 

[Scintillating10]

Be pretty cool we draft Shane Wright. Then draft Ty Nelson and Mateychuk in first round also. By trading Chiarot and Price for extra first picks. Then sign Bergeron and Fleury this off season.

 

[Schwang]

Should have traded Gallagher last January 2021. With his history of injury and his big contract, he is not worth much. They will also ask us to take a bad contract for him.

I said this a long time ago

 

[Schwang]

Be pretty cool we draft Shane Wright. Then draft Ty Nelson and Mateychuk in first round also. By trading Chiarot and Price for extra first picks. Then sign Bergeron and Fleury this off season.

I don't think they're getting a first for Price. Don't be surprised if they don't get a great return for him.

 

[WeThreeKings]

Be pretty cool we draft Shane Wright. Then draft Ty Nelson and Mateychuk in first round also. By trading Chiarot and Price for extra first picks. Then sign Bergeron and Fleury this off season.

I don't think we need Nelson and Mateychuk. If we have multiple firsts, Nelson should be Kasper, Mesar or Kulich.

 

[WinterLion]

I don't think they're getting a first for Price. Don't be surprised if they don't get a great return for him.

It's really hard to know... on the other hand I could see a team thinking that he is the last piece of the puzzle... and if they can find a way to squeeze him in they need to. Of course the big questions are whether he wants to move on and how healthy he is... those will dictate value to a large extent.