HF Habs: Current Standings Thread: Wrong Way for Wright (mid-season edition)

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[MarkovsKnee]

We play the flyers soon. They probably circled the date on their calendar and marked it as end of their losing stretch

Flyers play Vegas (loss), Arizona and NJD in their next 3 games before playing us. If they can't beat Coyotes, Flyers will be joining the bottom 5 fairly quickly.

 

[sandviper]

@MarkovsKnee, re: Gally not wanting to be part of a rebuild. He didn’t outright say it, but it can be inferred I suppose:

Canadiens' Brendan Gallagher has high praise for Marc Bergevin | Montreal Gazette

“This is my 10th season now,” Gallagher said when asked about the possibility of a rebuild and whether he’d want to be around for it. “I’ve always come in with the expectations to win. I felt like my teammates had the same goal, I felt like management had the same goal and sometimes organizations go through those things. I guess those are conversations that would probably need to be had down the road. But for me, I play this game to win. It’s really the only way I can enjoy it.

 

[L4br3cqu3]

For this year, of course I'd want us to end with the highest pick we can, but wouldn't mind simply being in the top-5, loads of interesting players in the top-15. Sure hope we get at least another 1st and/or 2nd pick, we'll need them. But I hope they also have 2023 in mind if they acquire picks, I hope we'll target the lowest of the lows again, another potential quality draft, at the top at least, Michkov, Bedard, Benson, Yager, Fantili, Dvorsky, Lindstein, Carlsson...

 

[sandviper]

For this year, of course I'd want us to end with the highest pick we can, but wouldn't mind simply being in the top-5, loads of interesting players in the top-15. Sure hope we get at least another 1st and/or 2nd pick, we'll need them. But I hope they also have 2023 in mind if they acquire picks, I hope we'll target the lowest of the lows again, another potential quality draft, at the top at least, Michkov, Bedard, Benson, Yager, Fantili, Dvorsky, Lindstein, Carlsson...

I feel the same way but for me, #1 goal is to finish well inside the top-10. This guarantees we don’t lose our pick, even if some teams jump ahead.

But yeah, inside the top-5 is preferable. The great thing about how bad we are is we have needs everywhere. Needs and BPA may be one and the same no matter where we pick in that range.

 

[beowulf]

@MarkovsKnee, re: Gally not wanting to be part of a rebuild. He didn’t outright say it, but it can be inferred I suppose:

Canadiens' Brendan Gallagher has high praise for Marc Bergevin | Montreal Gazette

I don't blame him and he is at least honest. I guess it will depend on where things go this year and who the Habs might feel they can trade before for a better return etc. You still have to have a few veterans around.

 

[CHfan1]

@MarkovsKnee, re: Gally not wanting to be part of a rebuild. He didn’t outright say it, but it can be inferred I suppose:

Canadiens' Brendan Gallagher has high praise for Marc Bergevin | Montreal Gazette

I think it also comes from here as well:

Brendan Gallagher: Gallagher has mused openly about not being interested in sticking around for a rebuild. He’s a heart-and-soul player (with great underlying numbers, so both camps go home happy here), would be tough to part with, but teams dream about having this type of player in the mix

 

[Pompeius Magnus]

Wright on being drafted by Canadiens: 'I wouldn't mind that' - TSN.ca

I mean, no reasons NOT to tank now

 

[hardcorehabs]

I would try to grab Edmonton’s 2023 1st rounder. They’re a McDrai injury away from being a bottom team again.

 

[Adam Michaels]

 

[CristianoRonaldo]

I think it also comes from here as well:

Please, be true !

 

[The Great Weal]

I think it also comes from here as well:

Chiarot, Gallagher and Toffoli are part of the listed 25 candidates

 

[Big Empty]

Can’t imagine him in any other jersey

 

[Mr Mom]

I would try to grab Edmonton’s 2023 1st rounder. They’re a McDrai injury away from being a bottom team again.

Not if we trade them Price.....

 

[sandviper]

Wright on being drafted by Canadiens: 'I wouldn't mind that' - TSN.ca

I mean, no reasons NOT to tank now

Means nothing to me. Question is, did he have Habs themed bedsheets?

 

[OpenIceHit]

It will be impossible to out tank the Coyotes. They are playing for .240. I don't remember a team below that since the Nordiques more than 30 years ago.

 

[Galaxydoggystyle]

It will be impossible to out tank the Coyotes. They are playing for .240. I don't remember a team below that since the Nordiques more than 30 years ago.

Wait didn't the trade we make with the Yotes stipulate that whoever has the HIGHER pick in the top 10 goes to the Habs? So if lets say both the Habs and Yotes are drawing for 1st overall even if the Yotes win that pick goes to us anyways? That's how I saw the trade unless someone can correct me.

 

[webersshot]

Wait didn't the trade we make with the Yotes stipulate that whoever has the HIGHER pick in the top 10 goes to the Habs? So if lets say both the Habs and Yotes are drawing for 1st overall even if the Yotes win that pick goes to us anyways? That's how I saw the trade unless someone can correct me.

We traded whichever one of our first is highest unless it's top ten to the yotes for Dvorak. If one is top ten we keep it. If both are top ten we get the better one

 

[OpenIceHit]

Wait didn't the trade we make with the Yotes stipulate that whoever has the HIGHER pick in the top 10 goes to the Habs? So if lets say both the Habs and Yotes are drawing for 1st overall even if the Yotes win that pick goes to us anyways? That's how I saw the trade unless someone can correct me.

It doesn't have anything to do with Arizona's pick. If either Montreal or Carolina’s pick ends up in the top-10, Arizona gets the lower pick. If neither pick is in the top-10, Arizona gets the higher pick. The way things are now, Arizona would get Carolina's pick.

 

[malcb33]

Wait didn't the trade we make with the Yotes stipulate that whoever has the HIGHER pick in the top 10 goes to the Habs? So if lets say both the Habs and Yotes are drawing for 1st overall even if the Yotes win that pick goes to us anyways? That's how I saw the trade unless someone can correct me.

The Habs pick is top 10 protected.

If either Montreal's or Carolina's pick is 10 or earlier, Montreal keeps the earlier pick, and Arizona gets the higher one of the two. If Montreal's and Carolina's picks are both outside of the top 10, Arizona gets the earlier pick and Montreal gets the later pick.

 

[webersshot]

The Habs pick is top 10 protected.

If either Montreal's or Carolina's pick is 10 or earlier, Montreal keeps the earlier pick, and Arizona gets the higher one of the two. If Montreal's and Carolina's picks are both outside of the top 10, Arizona gets the earlier pick and Montreal gets the later pick.

 

[Big Empty]

We are so unlikely to get Wright. Even if we manage to out-tank the Coyotes, we’ll have a 1 in 6 shot (16.6%) at getting the 1st overall pick. It’s much more likely someone else gets it. We can’t get too attached to the idea of Shane Wright in Montreal.

If we stay at 31st, we’re guaranteed a top 4 pick which is great.

 

[webersshot]

Phil the thrill cuts yotes deficit to one

 

[dkd]

Just keep dressing up AHL's for the rest of the season please! A major rebuild is inevitable.

 

[Galaxydoggystyle]

The Habs pick is top 10 protected.

If either Montreal's or Carolina's pick is 10 or earlier, Montreal keeps the earlier pick, and Arizona gets the higher one of the two. If Montreal's and Carolina's picks are both outside of the top 10, Arizona gets the earlier pick and Montreal gets the later pick.

Holy crap I had it all mixed up forget what I said whoops! lol