BillyShoe1721
Terriers
Would take Nich over Yak any day of the week, hes bigger and faster and more committed to the game. + he's a Flyers fan.
Nichushkin is a good skater for his size, but in a straight line race Yakupov would smoke him.
Would take Nich over Yak any day of the week, hes bigger and faster and more committed to the game. + he's a Flyers fan.
At which point, B. Schenn will also have established himself, and we'll have a better handle on what Luke is. It may very well still sound like an overpayment then.
Luke's ceiling is a Nick Grossmann clone and B. Schenn will be a streaky second line winger who is easily pushed off the puck and average at best at playing defense.
Nishuskin could become the next Malkin. Not guaranteed of course.
How about Gaborik?
Trade Hartnell/Simmonds and Mesz for Gabby. We get great goalscorer who wants out from Columbus, they get D-man and forward who could shine in new team.
If we are trading Simmonds, we can surely get something better than Gaborik.
Gaborik is pretty good. He had a down year last year, but the guy can still play. I love Simmonds and I think he's being made a scapegoat unnecessarily this season (he's playing poorly, but I think he's not a lost cause as some seem to think), but if Simmonds could net Marian Gaborik and he fits under the cap, I would do that deal a million times in a row. He may not net the 40-50 goals he was once capable of (I know, I know he never hit 50 but he was in that range), but on this team I would put him at a lock for 30. If it is Simmonds + (and it would be), depending on who the + is I would think about it, but I would not blink at including Simmonds in a deal.
Injury concerns are the only thing that really scared me about him.
No thanks on trading assets for Gaborik. He doesn't fit with the core of the team too.
You don't think Gabo would fit in here? Why not? This team needs a scoring winger. Pretty desperately. I know he is ancient at a shocking 31 years old and had a bad year last year, but I don't see the issue with him fitting in. The only issue with Gaborik is his health and the fact that he is injury prone. Other than that, I think Gaborik could be the goal scorer that this team needs. That being said, I don't think that there is any chance that this trade ever gets done.
What makes people think adding Gaborik would make this team a contender? He isn't gonna propel the Flyers into contender status and compete for a Cup. You trade away assets for him and won't really get anywhere. Then, by the time the Flyers are ready to compete in a few years, Gaborik would be even further into his decline. There is no good reason to expend resources to trade for Gaborik. Flyers should be getting players that are younger and fit into long terms plans.
Eh. I'd like to have Gaborik but I don't see how it can happen.
Trading anything significant with him going to UFA is really risky.
He's also 31, so we would trade ourselves into a situation where we would be giving a large cap hit for who knows how long to a guy who's set to get worse over time instead of better. We already have about 15 mil in cap space tied to forwards in that situation, I don't think we need more.
That's a move that should be made if the team is set to make a run to the Finals...not while they're in the Flyers' state. He could be over 35 and a shell of his former self by the time this team is ready to compete again, judging by the D situation.
I wouldn't expend too many assets for Gaborik either but only b/c I agree this team needs more and Gaborik would be a UFA. If they got him for a stopgap while getting rid of a longer term contract like Hartnell's I would consider it however. Otherwise, I disagree that his talents wouldn't be a fit here. I think him and G would complement each other pretty well..better than those two anchors he is playing with now...
I think you are misinterpreting what I am saying. I'm not saying let's trade Scott Laughton or Samuel Morin or other blue chip prospect for Marian Gaborik. I'm simply stating a) I would be more than happy to give up Simmonds in a deal for Gabo and b) that Gaborik would be an upgrade to the scoring of this team. He is 31, he's not finished yet. The Flyers have a handful of guys over 30 right now (one of which, Timonen, will likely retire after this year), adding one more isn't a bad thing, especially if that is a perennial 30 goal scorer. Everyone around here seems to think that younger automatically means better, which is not always the case. If Simmonds can get you Gabo, even if he is a shocking six years or so older, you do it.
I'm not advocating trading Simmonds. I like Simmonds. I would not be shopping him if I were GM. But if he could be used to get Gaborik, you do it. Wayne Simmonds, as much as I like him, is not the type of asset that will command a huge return.
Brayden Schenn is in his 3rd year