We already have the likes of Streit and Lecavalier with long-term deals in their twilight years and neither one of those contracts is looking impressive right now. I'd rather not go for a third player like that at least not with that type of contract.
VL's is looking fine aside from the injury. Streit's isn't too bad, his play has been decent. For $5.25 mil you would like to see more, but his play hasn't been too far below where his contract would be an issue. $5.25 is the going rate for defenseman of his caliber. The only issue with his contract is the length, which you can't complain about right now because we don't know what he'll be doing three years form now.
You can avoid players over 30 just because they're over 30 if they're going to command a high, long-term cap hit for their decline years. This is where it's ideal to have a constant stream of talent coming in via prospects, so your team doesn't have to resort to keeping lots of those guys or signing lots of them.
Edit: We already have Lecavalier and Hartnell. Add Gaborik to the mix and the team is starting to look like something Sather would build.
Well again I am not advocating overpaying for Gaborik. If he wants a seven year deal at the level he is at now, I would have no interest. I thought he was signed for a couple more years, at which point I would have been interested. I don't think adding Gabo to this mix would be a bad thing. He's 31. There is nothing wrong with adding an over 30 year old player, even if you have a couple already.
No, I think you are not understanding what I am saying. I am saying I don't want to trade younger roster players for older players, never anything about prospects. If the trade is Hartnell, then sure. Simmonds fits better with the core than Gaborik and Hartnell in terms of age.
Gaborik brings more offense to this team. This team needs offense. But Simmonds is 25 so he is a better fit, even the though the Flyers need more scoring? Come on. Yes, Simmonds fits better with the core in terms of age, but if you have a choice between a 31 year old who can score 30+ goals and a 25 who can't, I'd take the 31 year old who can.
I never said younger is better. I said the Flyers should look to acquire younger players, as in younger than Gaborik. It isn't like swapping Simmonds for Gaborik is gonna make this team a lot better than they are currently, so what is the point in that trade? I disagree in Simmonds not having a lot of value.
So at what point would you trade a player? Only if they younger? If they are within a year? Two years? If you can get a better player you do it. Losing Simmonds in favor of Gabbo would make this team a lot better. End of story. I'm not sure how adding a perennial 30+ goal scorer would not. You slot him on a line with either Giroux or VL (when he comes back) and you have a very good offensive threat, something this team desperately needs.
Hartnell-G-Gabbo
Schenn-VL-Voracek
Downie-Coots-Read
That is a pretty formidable top nine, despite the fact that three players (OMG) are over 30. And yes that is a lot better than with Simmonds in there.
What do you think Simmonds would command on the trade market just out of curiosity? At best I think you could probably get a first rounder maybe a little more at the deadline. I'd take Gabbo over that any day of the week.