I think he thought about it many times in past years,if not last year. Something has a grip on this team that has had them playing uninspired hockey for over a year,whether it's the system or the lack of faith in themselves. They've gone through several uninspired periods of play which dogs most teams but this is different.
News Article: CSN: Neely denies ever wanting to fire Claude Julien
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If media people are still tying this to the "you can't win every game 1-0 or without scoring" comments from years ago, then this is a pretty poor story.
Unfortunately the correct way in circumstances like these for handling the media becomes to give cliché responses only because anything that is out of the box or unorthodox is crucified.
The original comments to which I referred were so innocuous. (and I heard the interview then)
Unfortunately the correct way in circumstances like these for handling the media becomes to give cliché responses only because anything that is out of the box or unorthodox is crucified.
The original comments to which I referred were so innocuous. (and I heard the interview then)
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Neely reminds me a little bit of lowe, not something any fan base should go through. Hey maybe he's less incompetent, for Bruins sake I hope he is. I just don't think it's ever a good idea for an ex player to be so involved. As an Oiler fan im bitter on the subject aha, nepotism is not my favorite thing.
With all due respect, who gives a crap what oiler fans think about Cam Neely?
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My avatar pretty much tells how objective I am.
However, anyone who looks at that response and finds much of a problem is just looking for issues, IMO.
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What's the point of coming out with this BS when Chiarelli already leaked out months ago that Neely wanted to fire him but wasn't allowed to ?
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Same here. I see nothing wrong or untoward in his comments. He's setting the record straight, which, I believe was necessary given the media vibe we've been subjected to, and participated in, around the 'fire Julien' chatter.
And, in fairness, I was on the 'fire Julien' bandwagon and to some extent I still am. I believe some of his crappy in-game coaching decisions in the last couple of weeks of last season may have cost the team a playoff spot. Not that they would have gone far in the post season, but some of the stunts he pulled were unbecoming of any coach and particularly one with his experience.
So if Cam never... ever... thought of firing Julien last season, then IMO he should probably do a little more thinking about how the team is coached on and ongoing basis. It might be necessary.
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ok I was thinking 'Chiarelli said that how'd I miss that one'
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I ran into laviolette during the lockout in 2004 at Lowell during a Lockmonsters game and had an enjoyable conversation that included the Bruins. He was Carolina coach but when I told him I was upset he didn't get the Boston job lets just say we were on the same page
Love lavy
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It's as if the pro-Chiarelli camp is just waiting for a slip up of any kind to bash Sweeney and Neely. Chiarelli had nine years, he rode the rollercoaster, and was booted as it was obviously on the way down. Sweeney deserves at least a few years for his vision to take place.
But I agree, it's a very political, non-hockey, issue right now.
But I agree, it's a very political, non-hockey, issue right now.
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It was a Fluto article in the Globe. Unnamed source, but you don't have to be a rocket scientist to connect the dots.
What's Cam Neely supposed to say when asked this question? This is just a meaningless article to fill space in a slow time.
The proof will be in the pudding come December/January if the team is on the same course it was this last season.
Much ado about nothing right now.
The proof will be in the pudding come December/January if the team is on the same course it was this last season.
Much ado about nothing right now.
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Pastafarian!
You can't imagine a management team not wanting a scapegoat handy in case their master plan doesn't work???? Come on Roll.
I'm not saying that it is absolutely the case but I don't think it should be dismissed out of hand either. There has been too much background murmuring about Neely and Julien.
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I can't.
Claude will get fired, that's for sure. All coaches do.
I honestly can't imagine them conspiring and keeping him on solely to give them a scapegoat if things go South.
I think they kept him because he was their 1st choice of available coaches.
It's possible that they have other coaches that they'd like to hire, if they were available, but I'm not a conspiracy theorist at heart.
Maybe we can get Lonnie to chime in?
Edit: People do things every single day that defy imagination, so there is that, Betsy!
Don't think he'll be on the move from Nashville anytime soon. That's a completely revamped system that appears to work. And, it's entertaining.
I can't.
Claude will get fired, that's for sure. All coaches do.
I honestly can't imagine them conspiring and keeping him on solely to give them a scapegoat if things go South.
I think they kept him because he was their 1st choice of available coaches.
It's possible that they have other coaches that they'd like to hire, if they were available, but I'm not a conspiracy theorist at heart.
Maybe we can get Lonnie to chime in?
Edit: People do things every single day that defy imagination, so there is that, Betsy!
I agree with all of this. And I don't think Neely or Sweeney operate in the cynical "save my ***" way some suggest. You can believe the firing of Chiarelli was a power grab by Cam, and it likely was. But he is a person of integrity, as is Sweeney.
If you followed them as players, and know anything at all about the way they've conducted themselves off the ice, that fact would be plain.
Just from my observation, but winning teams today are built around coaches and their systems. As much as we say coaches tend to have a certain life span, the same thing can be said of certain players as well. I pick the Blackhawks as an example. Look at the rotating cast of players over the past 6 years, and how many cups they have still won. They kept a small core of players (Kane, Tawes, Keith) and constantly rotated out guys that they didn't identify as their core. Quenneville plays a big part in this as it's his system, and the players buying into that system that helps. Bowman and the Chicago organization has done an amazing job of not falling in love with their players, and also locating new talent to implement into their system. Both by grooming their own talent, as well as trades/free agency.
Claude has a system that has been proven it can win. The problem is Chiarelli fell in love with his players. Players got disinterested playing the same system, game in and game out. I think giving Claude a chance with some fresh blood may very be all this team needs. Well, besides a goal scorer/top dman. I believe the big test for Claude in whether or not he stays is how much fire the team plays with. This team can compete, and if they are playing with fire and heart the majority of games this year, then I think we are seeing a team heading in the right direction. Still not contenders for the Cup, but they should be a team most teams will hate playing.
Claude has a system that has been proven it can win. The problem is Chiarelli fell in love with his players. Players got disinterested playing the same system, game in and game out. I think giving Claude a chance with some fresh blood may very be all this team needs. Well, besides a goal scorer/top dman. I believe the big test for Claude in whether or not he stays is how much fire the team plays with. This team can compete, and if they are playing with fire and heart the majority of games this year, then I think we are seeing a team heading in the right direction. Still not contenders for the Cup, but they should be a team most teams will hate playing.
The question will be: will the Clod tell the kids to take the puck to the red line, dump it, and change lines,
or will he actually allow them to bring it inside the blue line and try to stress the defense?
or will he actually allow them to bring it inside the blue line and try to stress the defense?
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