Pre-Game Talk: Coyotes at Red Wings, October 10

[Roy S]

I think we only have 22 active players; so there is an open roster spot. Tootoo would just go on the active roster once he's off IR without their necessarily being a corresponding move.

The tougher decisions would come when Helm or Eaves get off LTIR.

 

[SoupNazi]

Ansar Khan ‏@AnsarKhanMLive 11m
Babcock said the only change for tomorrow is Samuelsson in for Tatar.

 

[Chance on Chance]

I think we only have 22 active players; so there is an open roster spot. Tootoo would just go on the active roster once he's off IR without their necessarily being a corresponding move.

The tougher decisions would come when Helm or Eaves get off LTIR.

Do we have 3 goalies on the roster though? I didnt think the monster was on LTIR and we still have Mzarek up.

 

[GoAwayDanCleary]

Ansar Khan ‏@AnsarKhanMLive 11m
Babcock said the only change for tomorrow is Samuelsson in for Tatar.

**** you babs

 

[Chance on Chance]

Ansar Khan ‏@AnsarKhanMLive 11m
Babcock said the only change for tomorrow is Samuelsson in for Tatar.

He didnt look great up but common, give him more then 1 game with 9 minutes of IT

 

[RedWingsNow*]

Tatar created one of our best scoring chances, setting up Miller in the slot with some hard work and good hands.
He did have an ugly turnover just inside the blueline.
One of the worst things in hockey is watching a player speed down the wing and curl it seems like it rarely leads to anything good in today's NHL.

 

[Roy S]

Do we have 3 goalies on the roster though? I didnt think the monster was on LTIR and we still have Mzarek up.

Monster is on IR- his cap hit still counts but he doesn't take up an active roster spot.

 

[sully6one]

Do we have 3 goalies on the roster though? I didnt think the monster was on LTIR and we still have Mzarek up.

He's just on IR and players on IR don't count against the roster just the cap. LTIR don't count against the cap or roster.

 

[Chance on Chance]

Monster is on IR- his cap hit still counts but he doesn't take up an active roster spot.

Ya I had my head in the gutter there.

 

[Brick Top]

Tatar created one of our best scoring chances, setting up Miller in the slot with some hard work and good hands.
He did have an ugly turnover just inside the blueline.
One of the worst things in hockey is watching a player speed down the wing and curl it seems like it rarely leads to anything good in today's NHL.

To be fair, Tatar is pretty much the only bottom 6 player we have who is physically capable of speeding down the wing... the others' top speed is somewhere between a mosey and a sunday stroll on ice.

 

[Henkka]

I think we only have 22 active players; so there is an open roster spot. Tootoo would just go on the active roster once he's off IR without their necessarily being a corresponding move.

The tougher decisions would come when Helm or Eaves get off LTIR.

Most important, Tootoo is now healthy. Healthy players can be traded and solve this roster logjam.

There has been lots of injuries throughout the league, so some organizations could start needing extra players.

 

[mindfly]

Ansar Khan ‏@AnsarKhanMLive 11m
Babcock said the only change for tomorrow is Samuelsson in for Tatar.

How can he still have a job? There's not a single person in the world who thinks Samuelsson is a better player than Tatar (it's even more absurd if you compare developing potential between the 2 as well)

And if you do play Tatar, why bury him with scrubs on the 4th line playing under 10mins a night? FIRE BABCOCK NOW.

NHL ain't getting a cent from me until This team has been fixed. Until then it's weekend games via VLC Player.

 

[WingedWheel1987]

How can he still have a job? There's not a single person in the world who thinks Samuelsson is a better player than Tatar (it's even more absurd if you compare developing potential between the 2 as well)

And if you do play Tatar, why bury him with scrubs on the 4th line playing under 10mins a night? FIRE BABCOCK NOW.

NHL ain't getting a cent from me until This team has been fixed. Until then it's weekend games via VLC Player.

Something something...tie goes to veteran.

 

[Kyleftlx]

Babcock will make the move eventually. I hope so, at least.

 

[fimoknete]

well... i guess we kick the coyotes out of the arena.
7-1 for the wings.

 

[Filppula]

Ansar Khan ‏@AnsarKhanMLive 11m
Babcock said the only change for tomorrow is Samuelsson in for Tatar.

Joke of a team. Being destroyed by coach and management.

 

[WingedWheel1987]

Tickets are dirt cheap for tomorrow's game. 52 bucks for lower bowl/1st row. Might just go for the hell of it, even though i am not excited to see that lineup on the ice.

 

[SimplySolace]

Tickets are dirt cheap for tomorrow's game. 52 bucks for lower bowl/1st row. Might just go for the hell of it, even though i am not excited to see that lineup on the ice.

I looked earlier and didn't see any that cheap.. what website are you using?

 

[WingedWheel1987]

I looked earlier and didn't see any that cheap.. what website are you using?

Stub hub. It's a single ticket. There are 60 dollar tickets for more than one seat that are lower bowl/row two. I can't find anyone who wants to go. They are all going to watch the Tigers game and that one seat is looking really good.

 

[jfrank21]

I saw this quote and think it shines a little light on how babs might be looking at this Tatar situation...


“What I like is he does what’s right. He doesn’t let the fans coach the team, he doesn’t let the media coach the team, he does what he’s supposed to do. To me, that’s what it’s all about, you make these decisions based on experience and you go with your gut and your gut is based on a track record of being steady on the rudder and winning. You don’t become a serial winner like he is by accident, so you do the right things and good things happen.’’

It's about what he thinks of Leyland.

 

[Frk It]

I saw this quote and think it shines a little light on how babs might be looking at this Tatar situation...


“What I like is he does what’s right. He doesn’t let the fans coach the team, he doesn’t let the media coach the team, he does what he’s supposed to do. To me, that’s what it’s all about, you make these decisions based on experience and you go with your gut and your gut is based on a track record of being steady on the rudder and winning. You don’t become a serial winner like he is by accident, so you do the right things and good things happen.’’

It's about what he thinks of Leyland.

I think that quote reflects the way Babcock coaches more than it says anything about the Tatar situation.

"based on a track record" - playing veterans with a proven history
"steady on the rudder" -stubbornness, not a lot of flexibility
"decisions based on experience" - Again do things that have gotten you wins in past (lame Anaheim ducks hockey) or playing players based on past experiences (Cleary, Samuelsson).

 

[jfrank21]

I think that quote reflects the way Babcock coaches more than it says anything about the Tatar situation.

"based on a track record" - playing veterans with a proven history
"steady on the rudder" -stubbornness, not a lot of flexibility
"decisions based on experience" - Again do things that have gotten you wins in past (lame Anaheim ducks hockey) or playing players based on past experiences (Cleary, Samuelsson).

That's what I was trying to say....he's playing the guys totally based on what they did for him 5 years ago, not based on what they can do today. He doesn't want to change things just because the fans and media are questioning who's in the lineup. He wants to go with what worked before, and he believes it will work again if given time.

 

[Frk It]

That's what I was trying to say....he's playing the guys totally based on what they did for him 5 years ago, not based on what they can do today. He doesn't want to change things just because the fans and media are questioning who's in the lineup he want to go with what worked before and believes it will work again if given time.

Oh my apologies... Yeah, I agree with you 100%.

It's too bad the guy is so set in his ways. And it's funny, I think he gets real nostalgic about players that used to do well for him. We watch guys like Cleary and Samuelsson go out there and stink it up. It's like he's watching them play thinking they are still the exact same thing they were 5 years ago. Seems like his perception is way off.

 

[GBFP]

No other place to ask so I'll put it here - Was Hertl the guy the Wings were sniped on that they were really hot for in the draft?

 

[wingfan]

No other place to ask so I'll put it here - Was Hertl the guy the Wings were sniped on that they were really hot for in the draft?

Yeah, they were sniped at the trade deadline by Kyle Quincey... In 2012...