Could the 2013 draft be the draft we are talking about for years?

[Game 8]

^blech !!!

We have had a lot of winners!

 

[Tw0Shoes]

and the 2014 draft was proof of that point ! other than Leon, that draft could be one of our worst ever!

It's pretty hard to beat the some of the Barry Fraser years, that being said, it seems like they realized they have too many guys coming down the pipe too quickly and opted for guys who are taking a longer development path last year. All of them except a 7th round goalie(and Leon) will be going the college route, which means we have a lot longer to sign them to a contract(or not). Gives those prospects a longer development time, and gives current prospects in the system longer to see if they're going to pan out.

 

[oilinblood]

It's pretty hard to beat the some of the Barry Fraser years, that being said, it seems like they realized they have too many guys coming down the pipe too quickly and opted for guys who are taking a longer development path last year. All of them except a 7th round goalie(and Leon) will be going the college route, which means we have a lot longer to sign them to a contract(or not). Gives those prospects a longer development time, and gives current prospects in the system longer to see if they're going to pan out.

ding ding ding
i was just going to say this. it was also a weak draft. the top end was not very top end. the depth after the top five dropped off a cliff. ALOT of risk in that draft and scouts knew that for a year or two before hand.
we discussed last year how everyone in the draft was a project and higher amount of risk than other drafts, with also longer development times. the value of the picks were also very low in comparison to other drafts (when you get to the draft GMs want to do things and make moves but even they commented that there was very little to get excited about EVEN though you are going crazy wanting to make a move).

making a great team takes some zig zagging in the cap era. zig zagging with your draft picks and sometimes zigzagging with you lineup in order to move an asset at the highest possible value.
as i pointed out in the mcdavid thread...mcdavids wings might be used, at times, to increase a trash cans trade value. colorado did this for a decade with forsberg and sakics wings. a guy would play thirty games collecting garbage points and tapping in rebounds. then he gets shipped off for a 1st rounder and a prospect, or for a veteran depth piece needed for the long playoff drive.

if the oilers get very good they can start using their ahl team to show off trash cans too. Drais might be THAT dominant to turn up a wingers value as a prospect in the Ahl. then that winger gets moved in a package for an asset we need. This is why Drais will be best served and best serve the org by playing a year in the A. ofcourse he also might absolutely dominate at camp and claim his spot. but asset wise, even if he dominates...id send him down and use twenty or thirty games to see who i can increase in value to move for a substantial return. then move drais up to that spot.
asset management done properly.

big picture

 

[Mr Positive]

this will also be a better draft than 2010 because those players will be entering a better AHL and NHL squad.

At any rate, it does appear that MacT was okay with drafting, or that we had better scouts or whatever. Lots of smart picks there, and that strategy MacT did to trade down to get more picks appears to have paid off (although Zykov looks good, albeit not really the type of player we need right now).

He took advantage of the Russian factor.

 

[The Human Torch]

It's pretty hard to beat the some of the Barry Fraser years

Still can't understand why Sather let dude do all of his "scouting" from a TV screen in Mexico.

 

[OilTastic]

^that's a no brainer. scouting was nowhere near as good back then as it is now and the Oilers were loaded with talent in the 80's and at the time didn't feel they needed to be vigilant at the draft, and i even heard a media wag back then mention this. it's only when the mid 90's came and most of the dynasty players were gone and we sucked that we realized we really didn't have a lot to show for the previous decade worth of poor drafting and had nothing in the cupboard to replace anyone.

 

[Frank the Tank]

and the 2014 draft was proof of that point ! other than Leon, that draft could be one of our worst ever!

Outside of Draisaitl, every player picked in 2014 was a long shot at best. That is what one expects for guys picked in the later rounds. If one wants to call it a poor draft, that lies on MacT for having no 2nd/3rd round picks instead of blaming the scouting staff for poor choices.

As for 2013, I have always been a fan that after the 2nd round the more darts for the dart board approach is the way to go. When combined with the Oilers not shying away from Russian prospects, it may prove to have been a strategy that pays off in the long term.

 

[Mr Positive]

Outside of Draisaitl, every player picked in 2014 was a long shot at best. That is what one expects for guys picked in the later rounds. If one wants to call it a poor draft, that lies on MacT for having no 2nd/3rd round picks instead of blaming the scouting staff for poor choices.

As for 2013, I have always been a fan that after the 2nd round the more darts for the dart board approach is the way to go. When combined with the Oilers not shying away from Russian prospects, it may prove to have been a strategy that pays off in the long term.

When MacT criticised the scouting, he wasn't talking about 2014. Besides, in the grand scheme of things, moving the picks out that year was a good thing, especially considering that the 2nd was used to get Perron, and Perron became the Pittsburgh 1st this year (a better draft year). The 3rd was Scrivens, which doesn't look great today, but it did give us some stability in the short term.

I know you probably mean trading other players for different picks, but we just aren't the type of team to be doing that considering we are too young already and need real players more than picks. That's the main problem with the Perron trade to Pittsburgh, but like many have suggested, that pick will likely be traded for immediate help. Even if it isn't, MacT seems to have lucked out with the value on that pick considering that Paajarvi's value has tanked and that Pittsburgh had a bad season.