Speculation: Could Eric Staal be on Canadiens' radar?

[smocella9]

http://alongtheboards.com/2014/10/eric-staal-montreal-canadiens-radar/

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[Hullois]

http://alongtheboards.com/2014/10/eric-staal-montreal-canadiens-radar/

We certainly need more centers...

 

[Richiebottles]

I hope not.

If we need someone it is Jumbo Joe.

Not Staal.

 

[habsterr]

I feel like the price for Staal would be around:

Desharnais, 1st round 2015, pick 1 of: McCarron, De la Rose, Scherbak

 

[Rapala]

I feel like the price for Staal would be around:

Desharnais, 1st round 2015, pick 1 of: McCarron, De la Rose, Scherbak

Which is why you don't pull that trigger...

 

[Laurent]

I feel like the price for Staal would be around:

Desharnais, 1st round 2015, pick 1 of: McCarron, De la Rose, Scherbak

Cap-wise though, we would need to move a bigger salary than DD iirc. Value wise, makes a LITTLE bit of sense. Feel like we're overpaying on the prospect, but that's what a team will have to do if they want Staal. Hypothetically, if you replace DD with, let's say Plekanec, you lower the value of those prospects to more of a Nygren/Patteryn/Ghetto type of prospect I reckon

 

[Treb]

Staal for DD, Moen, Bourque, 2015 1st, 2016 1st , any 2 prospects except the 1st rounders.

Moen and Bourque are there for salary reason.

Pacioretty - Staal - Gallagher
Galchenyuk - Plekanec - Parenteau
Bournival - Eller - Sekac
Prust - Malhotra - Weise
Claim a 13th fwd on waiver

Of course, that won't happen.

 

[LyricalLyricist]

Which is why you don't pull that trigger...

What's wrong with that deal?

 

[Rapala]

Staal for DD, Moen, Bourque, 2015 1st, 2016 1st , any 2 prospects except the 1st rounders.

Moen and Bourque are there for salary reason.

Pacioretty - Staal - Gallagher
Galchenyuk - Plekanec - Parenteau
Bournival - Eller - Sekac
Prust - Malhotra - Weise
Claim a 13th fwd on waiver

Of course, that won't happen.

And a mini bus to move them in.

 

[xposbrad]

What's wrong with that deal?

It must be that he thinks DD is an untouchable because McCarron has very little trade value right now.

 

[WhiskeySeven*]

I feel like the price for Staal would be around:

Desharnais, 1st round 2015, pick 1 of: McCarron, De la Rose, Scherbak

DD + two firsts? Sure, but make 'em future 1sts not Scherbak for instance. McCarron I dunno, I'm wary to give away big players in fear of losing the next LeClair.

 

[Rapala]

What's wrong with that deal?

Don't like including Scherby or DLR Just about anyone else though.

 

[FloJack]

He has done nothing since the one post lockout year that they really called infractions. He won the Stanley Cup in the poweplayoffs. He's been going down ever since.

He's a good player still, but not upper echelon dominant like his reputation that's still holding.

Not worth the price and not a game-breaker.

 

[CupInSIX]

Malhotra, Bork, Moen, Andrighetto, Thomas, Drewieske and Weise's corpse

for Eric Staal, Jordan Staal and fresh buscuits, 40% of buscuit's cap hit retained

 

[Mike8]

He has done nothing since the one post lockout year that they really called infractions. He won the Stanley Cup in the poweplayoffs. He's been going down ever since.

He's a good player still, but not upper echelon dominant like his reputation that's still holding.

Not worth the price and not a game-breaker.

Down ever since? He scored above ppg in 12-13 (6th in the nhl in scoring). Last time he did that was in the post lockout season.

He's been otherwise consistent at just barely under ppg. The one exception to that is last season, when Carolina was particularly miserable.

 

[Rapala]

He has done nothing since the one post lockout year that they really called infractions. He won the Stanley Cup in the poweplayoffs. He's been going down ever since.

He's a good player still, but not upper echelon dominant like his reputation that's still holding.

Not worth the price and not a game-breaker.

I would look at it as a rescue mission.
I don't think his fire's been stoked for quite some time.
He was actually one of the few players I ever saw get the best of Z in a series.

 

[Habs13]

pick 1 of: McCarron, De la Rose, Scherbak

Deal breaker, IMO.

 

[CupInSIX]

I would look at it as a rescue mission.
I don't think his fire's been stoked for quite some time.
He was actually one of the few players I ever saw get the best of Z in a series.

Yeah he looked great then.

I don't think he'll be moved, at least not until the offseason, but MB would be nuts to not put a serious offer on the table.

If I'm Carolina I'm wondering why I don't just let the chips fall and hope for McDavid-Staal-Staal next season.

 

[Kriss E]

Which is why you don't pull that trigger...

Pretty sure I would do that without thinking twice. The guy has scored under 70pts once in his career since his rookie year, and he's been on some terrible teams (including last year when he got 61pts). Having him center a line with MaxPac and Gallagher would be amazing.

 

[Lebowski]

To me trading for Staal is a Gomez redux waiting to happen. Not convinced he'll have the impact of an elite #1 going forward.

If all they want is DD/Eller, picks and marginal prospects, then sure, why not. Multiple first rounders and some of our prime prospects, however, is a no from me. And we all know in the real world, they would expect actual assets coming back, so there's no way to make this work from my perspective.

I'm happy with what we currently have down the middle. I'd be more open moving pieces for an impact winger if anything. I'm confident Galchenyuk will be a legit #1 center in this league within 2 years.

 

[Alexander the Gr8]

If it means replacing DD, then why not. But that price tag is hefty. E.Staal is very inconsistent too.

 

[Alexdaman]

The equity people here are offering is crazy. It's not like we were trying to get Malkin or Crosby... Spezza was traded for 10x less what everone is offering.

 

[Alexander the Gr8]

The equity people here are offering is crazy. It's not like we were trying to get Malkin or Crosby... Spezza was traded for 10x less what everone is offering.

It's different. Spezza wanted to leave Ottawa. E.Staal is happy in Raleigh. He has one of the best salaries in the NHL, only to score goals for a lottery team. Besides, he plays with his brother. Why would he want to leave the Hurricanes ?

 

[Richiebottles]

I would offer at best:

Eller + Pick + B Prospect.

As someone said, just look at what Spezza was traded for.

Big name players rarely get big returns. It is always a combination of young forward + mid level picks and prospects.

Kesler is another good example.

 

[Baruch]

I'd like Staal a lot in Montreal, to have Patches play alongside him.

For that to happen, DD needs to go (or else he'd prevent staal from 1st line minutes with Pac )

A 1st rounder is a given IMO.

A good prospect, or two decent ones.

For me the base of the trade would be this:

Eric Staal

VS

Desharnais
+
Conditionnal 2015 1st round pick (If we do not make the Stanley Cup Final, then switch to 2016 1st round pick)

to that, I'd add 2 of the following (one forward+one defenseman OR two forwards):

Andrighetto/Reway/Hudon/Thomas/Bozon
Pateryn/Nygren/Bennett