Mr Knies Guy
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And he was dyin to come back home and generously gave the Leafs that old hometown discount
Could David Clarkson void his contract?
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And he was dyin to come back home and generously gave the Leafs that old hometown discount
bobber
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Clarkson and his agent got an air tight contract worth millions of dollars from Nonis after everyone else in the league would never pony up what he thought he was worth. He probably wakes up every day and pinches himself to see if it was a dream. He would be the next star in Dumb and Dumber 3 if he gave back a nickel. Why would he even contemplate that when the rest of the team is over paid? Would Phanuef give back also? All you can hope for is he retires before he turns 90.
Mess
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1000% you could not do this from a CBA perspective. (setting aside the logical reasons why it wouldn't happen)
In the CBA its states the all contracts are guaranteed and non renegotiable in any way.
The only way out is a buyout from a team cap perspective and then the rules states you can't resign with your former team for 1 calendar year.
The only other option for Cap relief would be player retirement from the NHL and walking away from this contract (for players under age 35).
In the CBA its states the all contracts are guaranteed and non renegotiable in any way.
The only way out is a buyout from a team cap perspective and then the rules states you can't resign with your former team for 1 calendar year.
The only other option for Cap relief would be player retirement from the NHL and walking away from this contract (for players under age 35).
Proof anyone? Personally I'm not so sure it's impossible, Kovalchuk canceled his contract so there is merit or ways for it to be done. I'm sure he could "retire" and get a very cushy job by the leafs management staff too.
Suntouchable13
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This contract makes the Leafs gm job very undesirable. Why would anyone want to come here and deal with this albatross contract that you can't do anything with?
Yes, he could void his contract.
No, he couldn't resign with the Leafs at a lesser term.
A few players have terminated their deals in the past few seasons, including Kontiola with us, Petr Sykora with the Wild, and of course, Ilya Kovalchuk.
Both Kontiola and Sykora were sent down to the AHL prior to a 'mutual termination' of their deals. The best comparable to Clarkson would be Kovalchuk, who terminated his deal by 'retiring' from the NHL, and going to Russia to get paid equally big dollars while playing at home. Not really an option for Clarkson.
Ultimately the NHL has a lot of flexibility when it comes to dealing with contracts. Even if the Leafs were to, theoretically, pay a KHL team to take Clarkson, you have to figure it will be judged as cap circumvention regardless.
No, he couldn't resign with the Leafs at a lesser term.
A few players have terminated their deals in the past few seasons, including Kontiola with us, Petr Sykora with the Wild, and of course, Ilya Kovalchuk.
Both Kontiola and Sykora were sent down to the AHL prior to a 'mutual termination' of their deals. The best comparable to Clarkson would be Kovalchuk, who terminated his deal by 'retiring' from the NHL, and going to Russia to get paid equally big dollars while playing at home. Not really an option for Clarkson.
Ultimately the NHL has a lot of flexibility when it comes to dealing with contracts. Even if the Leafs were to, theoretically, pay a KHL team to take Clarkson, you have to figure it will be judged as cap circumvention regardless.
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Would it ever happen? No. Could it happen? Yes. Not sure why everyone is saying no. The Leafs couldn't void the contract and then turn around and re-sign him right away I'm sure, but they could simpy agree to void the contract and Clarkson retires. Mutual terminations happen every season. Not sure why they wouldn't be allowed to do that.
But like I said, it'll never happen unfortunately.
But like I said, it'll never happen unfortunately.
Warden of the North
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Because most teams have a bad contract?
And stealing from leafs Lunch yesterday; if Clarkson scores 20 goals is he still "untradeable"? Hes on pace for 18 or so.
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Auston 3:16
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I think he's still untradeable. Unless he gets up to 30 goals again (which is very unlikely to ever happen again) then I doubt his contract will be tradeable (Unless Leafs retain 50%).
Al14
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This is not on Nonis alone! Ownership has to have pushed to sign Clarkson! What about the Pro-scouts?
How does Clarkson, and his family, live with this too? They must all be subjected to ridicule on a daily basis now that him, and his outrageous contract, is just not working out!
I'd be wanting to leave the city, and hide somewhere else, if I were him!
How does Clarkson, and his family, live with this too? They must all be subjected to ridicule on a daily basis now that him, and his outrageous contract, is just not working out!
I'd be wanting to leave the city, and hide somewhere else, if I were him!
Tak7
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If teams made trade decisions based on stat sheets and offensive projections, then maybe.
But teams don't do that anymore - pro scouts watch these players. Teams will watch Clarkson and see what he can offer, what he can't offer, and make their determination that way.
And it has to be said - we've all watched Clarkson. It's really hard to define *what* he is, or what he provides regularly. That's the same thing that other teams will see.
Finally - on pace for 18 goals, isn't the same as scoring 18 goals. I highly doubt he gets there. 8 goals in 34 games? No chance IMO. Even if a PDO-fueled hot streak is around the corner.
Stephen
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Good or brutally awful, I think the Leafs need to just stomach the contract and honour it in good faith even if it sucks. Maybe in a year or two, someone will be dumb enough to want him for a playoff run, or he becomes a manageable buyout candidate. At some point you have to think about the integrity of the franchise if you start getting too creatively bonkers.
ha, that was the apologist noodles trying to sell that crap
noodles needs to wake up , he is really starting to sound like an idiot on that show
Stephen
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Noodles is so weird. He acts like a Leafs homer sometimes but then you wonder how he ever got affiliated on that show anyway considering he's not from here and never played here and was never a fan growing up.
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There is no chance in hell he retires from his hometown Toronto to move to Russia and play.
well, there is the premise of point/ counter point , that these type of shows are built off of
but when the other side of the debate forces you into the realm of pathetic notion
one then should conform to the known,
noodle also refers to this team as mediocre
the man should really look up the meaning of that word.
Tak7
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Noodles has been very good to listen to over the last few weeks since this thing went south.
The fact that he can view this thing from the perspective of not being inside the fishbowl, is valuable for that show - particularly when you consider he's sitting across two massive Leafs fans.
He brings balance to that show. Talks a lot of sense, at a time when not many in this city have much of it.
Could mlse have him "retire", and have his money paid to him ($25 million left) under the table?
well that's the thing
over the last 2 weeks he has made little to no sense trying to provide some counter point to the other two
there is no valid counter point to the other two right now.
