Value of: Cost to deal (Jordan) Weal!

[KingTech]

Ok, King's fan is asking for a 3rd round pick to give Habs 300K in capspace. That's the price to beat!

Please don't forget Matt Luff is also in this trade.

 

[Junohockeyfan]

Please don't forget Matt Luff is also in this trade.

Believe me, that has not slipped my mind. The answer is f*** no. Your offer is blown away by the MrFenn asking for a 5th round pick and a similar scrub to be returned to the Habs.

 

[KingTech]

Believe me, that has not slipped my mind. The answer is f*** no. Your offer is blown away by the MrFenn asking for a 5th round pick and a similar scrub to be returned to the Habs.

He never made a offer only said that he thought would get it done so nice try.


edit and he said a 4th 5th and a contract so thats not a offer

 

[Junohockeyfan]

He never made a offer only said that he thought would get it done so nice try.


edit and he said a 4th 5th and a contract so thats not a offer

He said a 4th would get it done. Maybe a 5th. And the Habs would have to take back a player on an ELC.

So basically the ask is a 4.5th round pick + a scrub like Matt Luff for Weal.

 

[KingTech]

He said a 4th would get it done. Maybe a 5th. And the Habs would have to take back a player on an ELC.

So basically the ask is a 4.5th round pick + a scrub like Matt Luff for Weal.

its not a offer no matter how you try to twist it. It was only "what he thought would get it done" In order for it to be a offer would have to have said scrub name in the offer so again nice try . I still have the only offer in the thread

 

[Junohockeyfan]

its not a offer no matter how you try to twist it. It was only "what he thought would get it done" In order for it to be a offer would have to have said scrub name in the offer so again nice try . I still have the only offer in the thread

LOL, this wasn't about offer's, it was about the "value of" 300K in capspace. A HF poster's offer is meaningless as we are not GMs. We are offering our thoughts on what is fair value / value / unfair value. The poster felt a 4th woudl get it done, probably a 5th. That is in line with what i was expecting.

Also, the fact that said poster didn't "offer" the name of the ELC contract is because the poster knows that any scrub ELC (like Matt Luff) has zero value.

 

[KingTech]

You said and i quote Mr fren was offering which was bs and now that i called u on it u wanna switch it around I'm done with you. No gm is going to waste cap space for 5th round pick so have fun trying to get that done.

 

[Junohockeyfan]

You said and i quote Mr fren was offering which was bs and now that i called u on it u wanna switch it around I'm done with you. No gm is going to waste cap space for 5th round pick so have fun trying to get that done.

I hear your opinion and respect it even though its laughable . I also heard the opinion of the other poster who thought a 5th would get it done. I think he's on the mark.

There is now balance in the universe.

 

[KingTech]

I hear your opinion and respect it even though its laughable . I also heard the opinion of the other poster who thought a 5th would get it done. I think he's on the mark.

There is now balance in the universe.

Once more post easy to say that he should get this or that but what team or teams do u see wasting there cap space in this manor

 

[Junohockeyfan]

Once more post easy to say that he should get this or that but what team or teams do u see wasting there cap space in this manor

Taking on a measly 300K of caphit (once Weal is buried) for a 4th or 5th round pick is wasting capspace? And that's also ignoring that Weal could still contribute to a 4th line.

300K is nothing to a team like Detroit. I would expect a 4th or 5th round pick has that kind of value.

 

[Goal Caufield50]

For the $325m he is good insurance to COVID and injury. Weal can play the pp and any spot up and down the line up. Worth keeping imho.

 

[KKWG11]

Should be easier to move now that hes cleared waivers

 

[pth2]

I don't see why moving Weal makes playing Perry that much more likely. Perry is way, way over the hill, and he's there for depth only.

There's a reason he went unsigned until the last minute and then signed for league minimum. The guy is toast.

 

[Hostile Offer]

Taxi cab depth has no value to the Habs. Why would the Habs pay an extra tax for the honor of having Luff occupy the trunk of the taxi cab? He would be in the trunk with the pizza boxes, beer bottles and stinky hockey bag.

He has zero value to the Habs. Habs wouldn't take him if he was free because the cab is full. Why is that so hard to understand?

I'd take AHL depth for free. Wouldn't pay a 3rd rounder to move Weal though.

 

[Guitpik]

Well think of it this way at least i made a offer I dont see anyone else doing so. So maybe ur expectations are a little to high. Cap space is at a premium in a flat cap world. Why should the kings settle for less

I would rather keep Luff. The coaching staff likes what they've seen from him during training camp.

 

[McJedi]

Low round draft picks carry so little value, don’t see a team making the effort here to make a trade that does nothing for their roster only to get a long shot lottery ticket. Just keep him buried. He’s an expiring 1.4mm deal. In the grand picture of bad NHL contracts, this one registers as a 3.4 on the Richter scale. It barely shakes and most of us sleep thru it.

It’s not worth the effort for the Habs or another team to make this deal.

 

[Habs Halifax]

I was thinking a 5th or 6th round pick.

Not in these flat cap seasons... I think it might cost a 3rd rounder. I really don't care if it's a 3rd, 4th, or 5th to be honest. Habs are loaded with picks in those rounds and the draft boards vary a lot after the 2nd round. Trading a 3rd on top of Weal to get it done would not hurt our ability to throw darts at our targets.

Weal and a 3rd
for
Future considerations

This would free up the Habs cap and Weal is not a bad player for a team looking for depth who are rebuilding and are not tight against the cap. Kings would be the team I would call. Lowest actual NHL salaries in the entire NHL this year. Money is important

 

[Habs Halifax]

Low round draft picks carry so little value, don’t see a team making the effort here to make a trade that does nothing for their roster only to get a long shot lottery ticket. Just keep him buried. He’s an expiring 1.4mm deal. In the grand picture of bad NHL contracts, this one registers as a 3.4 on the Richter scale. It barely shakes and most of us sleep thru it.

It’s not worth the effort for the Habs or another team to make this deal.

Habs need the cap space flexibility. Weal on our taxi squad is costing us $325k of cap and we could use that space. Especially if we want to make a move at the deadline.

 

[McJedi]

Habs need the cap space flexibility. Weal on our taxi squad is costing us $325k of cap and we could use that space. Especially if we want to make a move at the deadline.

Then make it a 3rd rounder since it seems desperate for the Habs to move him. A 3rd may get someone’s attention.

 

[Kudo Shinichi]

We could prob trade him for a late pick closer to the tdl.
We got a 7th round pick for Peca last year despite burying him in the ahl

 

[Habs Halifax]

Then make it a 3rd rounder since it seems desperate for the Habs to move him. A 3rd may get someone’s attention.

That's the point... getting someone's attention with the 3rd. Otherwise, I don't think other teams will be wanting Weal that badly.

 

[T_Cage]

3 Team trade because i'm bored:

NJD: Weal, 4th (MTL)
EDM: Eric Comrie
MTL: 7th (EDM)

Edmonton gets their goalie insurance, montreal gets their 325k cap space, NJ gets a 4th for their trouble

 

[Captain Mountain]

I doubt Montreal cares enough about moving Perry to the active roster enough to pay to move Weal.

 

[Captain97]

Weal and a 3rd for Matt Luff

What if we put a condition on whether or not Matt Luff clears Waivers for the first time? If he clears its a 3rd if he doesn't it becomes a 4th.

 

[KingTech]

What if we put a condition on whether or not Matt Luff clears Waivers for the first time? If he clears its a 3rd if he doesn't it becomes a 4th.

Wow a very reasonable compromise. That would work for me So deal. Nice to see a reasonable level headed fan