Cory Schneider

[Wetcoaster]

Why would you think like that? Because he will be a UFA in a little over a year if we don't sign him? Maybe we should trade all our unsigned prospects because we could lose them in a year or two if they are not signed. Hell, let's get rid of our RFAs who become UFAs next year as well...you know just in case.

Schneider would be a top 10, potential top 5 pick in this year's draft (and no I didn't say he would go back into the draft this is just a pretend scenario) why would you trade him for the 21st? Worried he won't sign here? Anyone you may draft might not sign. Cory and his advisors have never said he wouldn't be willing to sign here and speculation is even if he does play his senior year he would be loyal to the team that drafted him.

What has he ever said tha indicates that he would be "loyal to the team that drafted him"? And why would he be when can become UFA out of the gate and not miss a season of hockey?

It is a different situation with CHL'ers as they go back into the draft.

As long as an NCAA player plays out his 4 years he becomes UFA in the year his calss graduates (i.e 15 August).

If he signs now he has a three year entry level contract. If he waits and signs next off-season he has a two year entry level contract. He comes off his entry level deal at the same time and he will be UFA again when he is 27.

 

[LeftCoast]

First of all, unless Nonis is getting some sort of signal from the Schneider camp that he is leaning towards returning to Boston College there is no way he would trade him for a 21st pick.

The issue of Cory's pending decision to turn pro or not would probably be helped along a bit if the Canucks sent a signal through his agent/advisor that they were shopping him. The thing about him loving the college experience, Boston and everything about BC is probably true, but it is also positioning. If he returns to college next year it is nearly certain that he will opt for UFA status in August 2008.

If Vancouver had questionably starting goal tending, it would be a no brainer. It is not a good move for a young player to essentially take a year off from development. Cory is not going to raise his game to the next level playing 35 games against 18 and 19 year olds. From a development perspective he need to turn pro. However there is not a great future playing behind the franchise in Vancouver. No one looks forward to sloppy seconds.

So when you look at this through the lens of what is best for Cory, and what is best for Vancouver, a trade makes a lot of sense.


As far as being "loyal to the team that drafted him" - why would he? Quite the opposite in fact. First, Schneider, during the 2005/2006 IIHF World Junior Championships in Vancouver, apparently felt the Canucks or someone within the organization was leaking scouting reports on him to the Canadian team. At least that is what was reported. That couldn't help. Secondly - with NCAA prospects, the drafting team is very limited in the amount of contact they can have with him. They certainly can't offer him any coaching, training, nutrition, counselling or financial assistance. If he comes to an NHL rookie training camp he would have to pay his own way. So there is not a lot to be loyal to.

In business, there is a place for loyalty. If you are in a long term relationship, you can and should consider loyalty. If it is a transaction, there is no place for loyalty. In this situation, with Cory's future UFA status pending, from his perspective, this may look like a transaction. Also consider that from Schneider's perspective, even if it were a relationship, it is asymmetrical, he didn't choose Vancouver. From the Canucks perspective it is a relationship - but one in which they are currently limited in developing or investing in.

 

[pitseleh]

My proposal of 13th overall, Ian White/Matt Stajan, 3rd in 07 is still valid for Corey Schneider + 2nd in 07.

I like that trade. I think I'd take Stajan, he'd fit in with Cooke and Kesler on the third line.

 

[LeftCoast]

My proposal of 13th overall, Ian White/Matt Stajan, 3rd in 07 is still valid for Corey Schneider + 2nd in 07.

That would work - unless you are talking about swapping first round picks (adding our #25 pick). Value asside, the Canucks are in no position to give up draft picks this year.