Proposal: Cory Schneider for Jake Allen

[stl76]

Both goalies coming off disappointing regular seasons. I think both goalies would be a better fit with the other team stylistically.

Cory Schneider age 32 signed 4 more years at 6M AAV.

Jake Allen age 27 signed 3 more years at 4.35M AAV.

Who adds? Who says no?

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[VoluntaryDom]

I think Blues would add. It seems like a solid basis though.

 

[Dr Quincy]

Both goalies coming off disappointing regular seasons. I think both goalies would be a better fit with the other team stylistically.

Cory Schneider age 32 signed 4 more years at 6M AAV.

Jake Allen age 27 signed 3 more years at 4.35M AAV.

Who adds? Who says no?

Come on, deep down, you know the answer to this.

 

[M2Beezy]

I think Blues would add. It seems like a solid basis though.

Yeah the base. Blues add Winnipegs 1st or a 2nd and top d prospect

 

[stl76]

Come on, deep down, you know the answer to this.

Like Dominic said, I would guess the Blues would have to add, but I am not sure how much honestly. Schneider has Vezina-caliber pedigree, but the age difference + salary difference + extra year + recent struggles should offset some of the difference in past performance IMO.

Would love to hear from NJD fans and neutral fans on what they think a fair deal would look like with a Schneider for Allen base...Blues have picks, prospects, and roster players (outside the current core) that will all be available this offseason.

 

[Vancouver Canucks]

Schneider should benefit from Martin Brodeur who helps with goaltending.

 

[Blackjack]

Schneider should benefit from Martin Brodeur who helps with goaltending.

Well, that doesn't seem fair to the other teams.

 

[Dr Quincy]

Like Dominic said, I would guess the Blues would have to add, but I am not sure how much honestly. Schneider has Vezina-caliber pedigree, but the age difference + salary difference + extra year + recent struggles should offset some of the difference in past performance IMO.

Would love to hear from NJD fans and neutral fans on what they think a fair deal would look like with a Schneider for Allen base...Blues have picks, prospects, and roster players (outside the current core) that will all be available this offseason.

Dominic is wrong about it being a good base. If NJ is dealing Schneider it's because they think Kincaid can do the job.

They are a playoff team. STL isn't. They aren't going to downgrade at D (which Allen is) in order to get one of the prospects that you are willing to deal and not one of your prime prospects. Age, salary, extra year... yadda yadda.... you are making a playoff team worse in net. I think if they are dealing Schneider the "base" of the deal should be the prospect. Now what STL prospect do you think is worth Schneider?

 

[Vancouver Canucks]

Well, that doesn't seem fair to the other teams.

Seems fair, given the fact the Blues aren't the best in goaltending.

 

[go4hockey]

Both goalies coming off disappointing regular seasons. I think both goalies would be a better fit with the other team stylistically.

Cory Schneider age 32 signed 4 more years at 6M AAV.

Jake Allen age 27 signed 3 more years at 4.35M AAV.

Who adds? Who says no?

Jake Allen is awful. Blues would need to add something nice.

 

[DrJustice]

Both had disappointing seasons but Schneider has a much more proven track record as a #1 goalie.

If the Blues are in win-now mode I could see this making sense, with Allen fitting the Devils timeline a little better if he finds consistency in his late 20's.

A mid level pick/B prospect added on the Blues side and it's close.

Props on proposing an actual logical, fair enough proposal in the trade thread though lol

 

[DudeWhereIsMakar]

Kinkaid is more overrated, trade him!

 

[Dbrownss]

Hard pass on Schneider....

 

[Vancouver Canucks]

Kinkaid is more overrated, trade him!

This is like Price/Halak situation all over again, or maybe, ironically, Luongo/Schneider situation.

 

[DudeWhereIsMakar]

This is like Price/Halak situation all over again, or maybe, ironically, Luongo/Schneider situation.

The Luongo/Schneider situation was much more complicated, it was so complicated that it ended up leading them to lose both Schneider and Luongo. But if you compare this to the Price/Halak situation, Cory Schneider is Carey Price and Keith Kinkaid is Jaroslav Halak.

 

[Vancouver Canucks]

The Luongo/Schneider situation was much more complicated, it was so complicated that it ended up leading them to lose both Schneider and Luongo. But if you compare this to the Price/Halak situation, Cory Schneider is Carey Price and Keith Kinkaid is Jaroslav Halak.

Which is sad, because Kinkaid's the better goaltender.

 

[TK 421]

I'm sorry but I've already created a narrative where Ville Husso is the long awaited chosen one and I'm unwilling to let go of said narrative at this time.

 

[Blueston]

Schneider has been crap for 2 years now, makes much more money, and is older than Allen. Why would the Blues want him? I got no objection to dealing Allen, but Schneider makes no sense for St. Louis.

 

[67Blues]

If we did that trade, we might as well trade Husso and Binnington as the length of that contract puts those guys totally out of the picture.

Easy pass from my standpoint. Roll with Allen next year as 1A and hope Husso can go 1B with Allen as backup for the rest of his contract. He is excellent at opening the bench door, and those skills just aren't developed, they are born.

 

[Starat327]

I feel like blues add pretty and probably pretty significantly here.

Allen has been average to bad on good teams. Schneider has been good to average on absolutely awful teams. Contracts and age may even things out a bit but if I had to choose, no matter the state of my franchise, inless I'm tanking, I'm taking Schneider

 

[mouser]

Schneider should benefit from Martin Brodeur who helps with goaltending.

And I hope Jake Allen is benefiting from Brodeur now.

 

[simon IC]

I am so ready to be rid of Allen, that I saw this thread and thought, "YES!" Then I read the thread, and came to my senses. Interesting proposal, OP, and I fully understand your motivation, but I have to pass on this one. I don't think Schneider is the answer, and I am seriously balking at the adding we would have to do. Let's wait and see what Husso brings.

 

[BleedBlue14]

And I hope Jake Allen is benefiting from Brodeur now.

He didn't last year. And then for some reason we hired one of his old goalie coaches and apparently that isn't working too well. I don't think Marty wanted to coach

 

[Vancouver Canucks]

And I hope Jake Allen is benefiting from Brodeur now.

He did, but not anymore.

 

[AfroThunder396]

Schneider should benefit from Martin Brodeur who helps with goaltending.

A 46 year old executive is going to pass on the secrets of the half-butterfly to Schneider, even though they already worked together for a year and this somehow never came up?