InjuredChoker
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If it improves the Wings chances of acquiring Bobby Ryan, then this is great news!
It does.. but it does so too for the rest of eastern conference.
One step forward and one step back.
If it improves the Wings chances of acquiring Bobby Ryan, then this is great news!
I don't think is it a good management to hang 17 million dollars on two players, when your internal cap is 57 million. That's 30% of the total salary budget for two players. But of course, they are the greatest workhorses, merchandise sale machines and building blocks there. Time will tell is it a good or bad way to build.
Perry's contract is another proof that the new CBA rules lead to substantially higher annual cap hits. Detroit's decision, not to use up the remaining cap space last summer (provided that the funds were made available by the owner, which one might start to doubt) proved to be the wrong one - the window for utilizing longer contracts for smaller cap hits has closed.
Gruß,
BSHH
Perry's contract is another proof that the new CBA rules lead to substantially higher annual cap hits. Detroit's decision, not to use up the remaining cap space last summer (provided that the funds were made available by the owner, which one might start to doubt) proved to be the wrong one - the window for utilizing longer contracts for smaller cap hits has closed.
Gruß,
BSHH
Perry's contract is another proof that the new CBA rules lead to substantially higher annual cap hits. Detroit's decision, not to use up the remaining cap space last summer (provided that the funds were made available by the owner, which one might start to doubt) proved to be the wrong one - the window for utilizing longer contracts for smaller cap hits has closed.
Gruß,
BSHH
Not sure I would call the contracts signed in the summer smaller cap hits. The real bargains with the long term deals are guys like Zetterberg and Hossa where the actual cap hit is way below market value, not Parise and Suter who both have a market value salary and cap hit. I'd rather take Perry's new contract on the books over Parise's.
Or, you know, teams just shouldn't pay stupid money for players.
Implying they didn't attempt to spend that cap space.
Let's not go over this "zomg they didn't try hard enough for Suter/Parise! Yes they did!" crap again.
zetts and hossa deals were different time, less actual cap dollars available per team, older players, less acomplished players
if datsyuk today was 26/27 years old, one year removed from winning the hart trophy and UFA this summer, he too would get a 8 year 8 plus million dollar contract
some wings fans are simply jealous or bitter or both that another empty dream they had of signing a top free agent goes out the window(just like it should)
Would you rather give "max deals" to Malkin/Crosby or Getzlaf/Perry? I know those two are important to the Ducks but did they have to go all in them to that extent? The Ducks are officially married to those guys because those will be ugly cap numbers to move when they're at the end of those deals.
While I don't approve of the back-diving deals...I'm glad the Wings got those contracts for Hank and Mule done when they did.
so if we had getzlaf and perry you woudl say and be strongly advocating that we should let both of them walk?
what about if we had toews and kane, or crosby and malkin or heaven forbid, a younger datsyuk and zetterberg?
give me a break, no team, no fans want to see their superstar young players that they drafted and they developed walk away
If the Ducks didn't keep them, what was the alternative? they won't get anything better in free agency, and I'm not sure they have the assets to trade for replacements. With Koivu and Selanne either retiring or approaching retirement, the Ducks need to keep their young, big guns or risk falling into the cellar - something I'm not sure is much of an option if they hope to maintain a fan base.
so if we had getzlaf and perry you woudl say and be strongly advocating that we should let both of them walk?
what about if we had toews and kane, or crosby and malkin or heaven forbid, a younger datsyuk and zetterberg?
give me a break, no team, no fans want to see their superstar young players that they drafted and they developed walk away
Hey, if they want to potentially handicap themselves for the future, that's -- quite literally -- their business. Simply put, I would not want those two contracts on my books -- and if that puts me in the minority, so be it.
Um, no, I did not say that. Not even close. Not even a little bit. None of those words EVER crossed my mind, into my fingers, through the wonder that is the Internet, and onto this message board. This is getting ridiculous. Are people here so eager to get into arguments that they just toss words into other peoples' mouths then go off on them about it? I mean, ****ing seriously folks, any chance we can give that a rest for a while?
As a response: I would simply be unhappy with two contracts that took up roughly 1/4 of the available cap space for next season. Granted, the cap is likely to go up, but how much is anyone's guess.
Hey, if they want to potentially handicap themselves for the future, that's -- quite literally -- their business. Simply put, I would not want those two contracts on my books -- and if that puts me in the minority, so be it.
exactly. i think this is a huge loss. everyone was so quick to want to give parise 100m+ i rather have perry over him. we need a prolific scorer with a right handed shot in his primePerry is a Hart Trophy winner.
If you want elite talent, you pay for it.
If you want Mikeal Sammuelsson, you can pay $3M a year
People need to get a better handle on the market. Wings fans are out of touch with reality. Maybe it's because we haven't signed an elite player to a normal deal in 6 years...
But consider... if Pavel Datsyuk was worth $6.5M a year in 2008, when some still questioned his ability/toughness and the cap was $46M or whatever...
exactly. i think this is a huge loss. everyone was so quick to want to give parise 100m+ i rather have perry over him. we need a prolific scorer with a right handed shot in his prime