sprongshowhky
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And forgoes either top draft picks or trading away multiple firsts in the quest to stay competitive?
Dynasty Islanders. They ended up getting nothing for some of their core players. Potvin and Bossy retired, Gillies was waived and Trottier was bought out. By 1991 the team was atrocious and the next two decades were very dismal.
Internally, this is more difficult than fans think. There's a real relationship there...and even if you go, "that's business", well, business is a bunch of relationships too...it's not a video game where you just click some buttons on a screen and the player goes away. There's so, so much involved. When I was 14 I faulted teams for not "getting something for a core veteran" kind of thing...not now though, not now that I've been around it a little bit...
Hahaha, this an easy one for me. The post-2009 Flames. It was an ugly time to be a Flames fan. We hung on to Iggy and Bouw a year or two too long and, as a result, got pretty meh returns when we did move them.
Joe Thornton/Patrick Marleau era San Jose.
Lots of regular season success, but only 1 trip to the cup finals over their prime span together between 2006 and 2018.
2009 to 2015 Detroit Red Wings.
Should have started the teardown in 2012 but looking at how poor we drafted between 2005 and 2012 I don't think it would have made too much of a difference. Lidstrom leaving should have been the signal. Instead, Holland and company decided to wait until the wheels completely fell off during the 2016-2017 season.
Post-Brett Hull Blues
Should have looked to blowup the team after Hull left. They had a couple very good regular seasons between 1998 and 2003 during the Quenneville era. But there just always seemed to be one or two elements missing to push them over the hump and put them in the Colorad/Detroit/Dallas territory.
1996 to 2001 Pittsburgh
As the game started to become more defensive this was a team that needed to be rebuilt to go with the era.
90s Rangers. But it was a power struggle.
Pittsburgh is an interesting one. In a vacuum yes you're completely right. But that misstep probably saved the franchise and directly led to 3 Cups.
Without that error, the dont pick 5th, 2nd, 1st, 2nd, 1st overall in consecutive drafts from 2002 to 2006, and dont have Crosby, Malkin, MAF, Staal, Whitney
Hm. I actually disagree with this to some degree. I think the team should have re-signed Messier in 97 for another three years, and you wouldn't have seen the same drop off from Richter & Leetch had that happened. Pure conjecture on my part, but in particular I think Leetch's "decline" was largely due to Messier leaving and the spotlight being mainly on him.
Remove a few terrible moves (i.e., trading Zubov, trading Norstrom, etc.) and I think the team remains competitive through 2000.
That's right. Mess scored a great-sounding 84 points in 71 games (97-point pace, which, if reached, puts him tied for 4th in NHL scoring) in 1997, aged 36. That's incredible, actually (and matched Gretzky's scoring pace).Problem was Messier was declining fast inthe 97 playoffs. He looked lost those playoffs and uninterested during the end of the season.
Hidden cameras and deflated footballs are part of what makes Belichick a dirtbag.It's part of what makes someone like Bill Belichick so unique and great. He has never had a problem trading away a star player with some gas left in the tank. His motto has always been move to the young replacement 1-2 years too early rather than too late.
Hidden cameras and deflated footballs are part of what makes Belichick a dirtbag.
Giant fan, 2-0 versus the cheaters.rent free
Joe Thornton/Patrick Marleau era San Jose.
Lots of regular season success, but only 1 trip to the cup finals over their prime span together between 2006 and 2018.
2009 to 2015 Detroit Red Wings.
Should have started the teardown in 2012 but looking at how poor we drafted between 2005 and 2012 I don't think it would have made too much of a difference. Lidstrom leaving should have been the signal. Instead, Holland and company decided to wait until the wheels completely fell off during the 2016-2017 season.
Post-Brett Hull Blues
Should have looked to blowup the team after Hull left. They had a couple very good regular seasons between 1998 and 2003 during the Quenneville era. But there just always seemed to be one or two elements missing to push them over the hump and put them in the Colorad/Detroit/Dallas territory.
1996 to 2001 Pittsburgh
As the game started to become more defensive this was a team that needed to be rebuilt to go with the era.