Connor Brown's worth

[Matthews34]

Is Conner Brown worth 2.1 million? Is 12g & 30pts all that 2.1 million buys you nowadays?

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[JT AM da real deal]

No

 

[smitty10]

No, he isn't worth that. I don't think he'll be on the team long-term. He's a good player though and plays a role on this team.

 

[egd27]

Amusing that this thread was right next to your "JT is underwhelming" thread.......maybe time for a break?

 

[ImpartialNHLfan]

Pretty decent contract when he signed it when he scored 20 goals. Since then better players have replaced him on the depth chart.

 

[GoonieFace]

Is Conner Brown worth 2.1 million? Is 12g & 30pts all that 2.1 million buys you nowadays?

Well, when you score 20 goals and 14 goals, 2.1/yr seems fair. He is having a bad year and will probably never duplicate those seasons, but its not outrageously bad.

 

[Menzinger]

He’s overpaid compared to what he produces (and the fact that there’s always cheaper depth wingers available). Useful player on the ice though

 

[JT AM da real deal]

He played amazing his rookie year. His play has slipped since XMas in his 2nd year.

 

[MyBudJT]

I'm routing for Brown.

Hometown Kid
Late round pick
Great Junior Career
Ridicoulous WJC snub
Solid NHL rookie Season

He clearly wants to be in Toronto. I think he'd give a discount to stay too. I'd like to wait until July 1st and see if he's willing to sign a cheep extension... something like 4 years @1.5AAV. Otherwise, ship himout!

 

[Stringer Bell]

You guys complain about Connor Brown all game every game but there are very few players if any I want PK'ing over him in a playoff game when we are only up or down one goal. Like seriously. The things we really need from him aren't things we're going to value to heavily in the middle of the regular season when we play a team like New Jersey. But am I the only one who remembers one of those magnificent full 2 minute PK's against Boston last year in the playoffs where he had one of those infamous LEE STEMPNIAK shifts?

You guys kill me sometimes.

 

[Slyfox]

What about Marleau making 6.25? Brown is needed as he PKs, is young and replacing him won't save much if any.

 

[Blanche Blanche]

We have cheaper ELC talent with more speed and skill.

I mean look at Moore... realistically he should be on the lineup. I have a feeling hes going to be like Kappy - Talent found on the fourth line, playing his way up. Undeniably.

Brown started on the first line, and found his way down and down and dowwwn.

Babcocks only warts is not trusting his talented youth and admiring mediocre grunts.

Kap and Johnsson were on the fourth and occasionally sent down for Komorov and Martin.

Brown and Marleau are the last 2 anchors.

Hyman is an awesome bottom 6 guy with a proven Playoff motor.

Youth. Speed. Talent.

 

[GoonieFace]

You guys complain about Connor Brown all game every game but there are very few players if any I want PK'ing over him in a playoff game when we are only up or down one goal. Like seriously. The things we really need from him aren't things we're going to value to heavily in the middle of the regular season when we play a team like New Jersey. But am I the only one who remembers one of those magnificent full 2 minute PK's against Boston last year in the playoffs where he had one of those infamous LEE STEMPNIAK shifts?

You guys kill me sometimes.

Didnt you know, every player on the Leafs have to Auston Matthews level good or else they are garbage and shouldn't be on the team

 

[1specter]

He's probably gone this summer, likely a cap casualty I'd imagine. If not gone this summer then he plays out his contract and he's gone after that for sure.

There are many internal replacements currently developing who bring more to the table.

 

[Stringer Bell]

Didnt you know, every player on the Leafs have to Auston Matthews level good or else they are garbage and shouldn't be on the team

Have you guys ever looked in the game thread during a game? There's this 'Shaner' guy who literally curses at players for being the worst players in the league and telling them to **** off etc over routine plays. It's very uncomfortable.

 

[GoonieFace]

We have cheaper ELC talent with more speed and skill.

I mean look at Moore... realistically he should be on the lineup. I have a feeling hes going to be like Kappy - Talent found on the fourth line, playing his way up. Undeniably.

Brown started on the first line, and found his way down and down and dowwwn.

Babcocks only warts is not trusting his talented youth and admiring mediocre grunts.

Kap and Johnsson were on the fourth and occasionally sent down for Komorov and Martin.

Brown and Marleau are the last 2 anchors.

Hyman is an awesome bottom 6 guy with a proven Playoff motor.

Youth. Speed. Talent.

Wrong, Babcock knows exactly how to bring young players along. Its not coincidence that Kapanen, Reilly, Johnsson etc are flourishing under him.

 

[GoonieFace]

Have you guys ever looked in the game thread during a game? There's this 'Shaner' guy who literally curses at players for being the worst players in the league and telling them to **** off etc over routine plays. It's very uncomfortable.

Its insane, I wonder if people actually think that or do it to get a rise out of people. Its hard to tell.

 

[Buds17]

I like what he brings as a player, but Kapanen had yet to emerge when Brown signed that contract. If the RW depth chart is going to remain as Marner/Nylander/Kapanen/Brown, I can see where there won't be enough cap space and opportunity for it going forward.

 

[ACC1224]

Have you guys ever looked in the game thread during a game? There's this 'Shaner' guy who literally curses at players for being the worst players in the league and telling them to **** off etc over routine plays. It's very uncomfortable.

Why would anyone do that?

 

[sessiroth]

Is Conner Brown worth 2.1 million? Is 12g & 30pts all that 2.1 million buys you nowadays?

To Edmonton for puljujarvi so brown can reunite with McDavid and light up the NHL.

 

[Randy Randerson]

objectively, yes he's performing to his contract by NHL standards - he's the 220th highest paid forward in the league and tied for 208th in production, he's also shooting half of his career average so double his goals to normalize, should be pacing for 12 goals and about 35pts in heavily defensive usage and PK time.

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he's paid in line with guys like Radek Faksa, Rielly Sheahan, Tobias Rieder, etc. There's not many guys paid within a few hundred thousand of him who you would say are clearly better imo and lots who are worse

 

[lovemyleafs]

He's been a little better as of late. But still remains, by far, the worst forward on this team this season.
GOAT, Ennis, Par, Moore, etc. have all performed better than him.

 

[smitty10]

objectively, yes he's performing to his contract by NHL standards - he's the 220th highest paid forward in the league and tied for 208th in production, he's also shooting half of his career average so double his goals to normalize, should be pacing for 12 goals and about 35pts in heavily defensive usage and PK time.

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he's paid in line with guys like Radek Faksa, Rielly Sheahan, Tobias Rieder, etc. There's not many guys paid within a few hundred thousand of him who you would say are clearly better imo and lots who are worse

Faksa is a center and brings more to his game than Brown. They honestly aren't very comparable other than the fact that they are both bottom 6 forwards.

Sheahan is a center as well, but both he and Rieder are underperforming in a big way and have been for a few years. Neither player is worth more than $1.2-1.5. They're both good comparables in that they're all underperforming players though.

 

[Orfieus]

Moore does everything Brown can do plus he is faster and more skilled then Brown. The kid got 3pts in 6 games on the 4th line

However I don't think Toronto will be trading Brown this year, unless they go after a defenceman and the other team specifically asks for Brown

 

[egd27]

We have cheaper ELC talent with more speed and skill.

Great, as long they also have more heart and drive.