Conn Smythe Voting

[hockeykicker]

Totals (first place votes):
Alex Ovechkin (Washington) - 80 points (13)
Evgeny Kuznetsov (Washington) - 64 points (5)
Braden Holtby (Washington) - 16 points (0)
Marc-Andre Fleury (Vegas) - 2 points (0)

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[ZeroPucksGiven]

Those who voted for MAF should have their credentials revoked

 

[Mugzy97]

Those who voted for MAF should have their credentials revoked

Not really, it's 3rd place votes for MVP of the entire playoffs, and he was definitely the MVP of the Stanley Cup runner ups.

 

[ZeroPucksGiven]

Not really, it's 3rd place votes for MVP of the entire playoffs, and he was definitely the MVP of the Stanley Cup runner ups.

There were 3 choices (and only 3 of them):

Kuz
Ovi
Holtby

I mean it's not that difficult

MAF was great in Rounds 1-3, but he showed his true colors in the last Round (where it truly counts).
I mean as soon as Holtby comes in the Caps start winning. How's that not scream MVP?

 

[Fataldogg]

There were 3 choices (and only 3 of them):

Kuz
Ovi
Holtby

I mean it's not that difficult

MAF was great in Rounds 1-3, but he showed his true colors in the last Round (where it truly counts).
I mean as soon as Holtby comes in the Caps start winning. How's that not scream MVP?

It truly counts in every round. For the Flyers and Giroux their performance truly counted. Bobrovsky' s performance truly counted.

I don't understand that expression. This isn't the regular season. Every game in the post season absolutely matters. That's why some people are golfing in April and others are still playing in June.

 

[895]

Interesting that the Vegas writers didn't vote for MAF.

Also I guess Jonathan Bernier is a super generic name in Quebec?

 

[Mugzy97]

There were 3 choices (and only 3 of them):

Kuz
Ovi
Holtby

I mean it's not that difficult

MAF was great in Rounds 1-3, but he showed his true colors in the last Round (where it truly counts).
I mean as soon as Holtby comes in the Caps start winning. How's that not scream MVP?

I agree with your top 3, I just don't think it's crazy for 3 people to think MAF deserved a vote. Certainly not worth revoking their credentials on it.

 

[vippe]

Ah didnt know they made these votes public. Cool! Are there more of these availible for other years?

Also let's not act like Holtby was some kind of mad man. He had a good run, but nothing out of the ordinary, he will always be remembered for that one save though. It was Amazing!
.922% in the post season is definately respectable. And .916 in the finals is not amazing, but he made some key saves which is all that matters in the end. He was never going to win the Smythe either way so no issue at all with rewarding Fleury who was about to have the most spectacular post season of all time before facing the caps.

 

[vippe]

Also holy shit, didnt know Per Bjurman had a vote in this one.

 

[tony d]

Thanks for sharing the vote results. No surprise to see Fleury get votes. Up until the Cup finals he was a huge reason for the success of the Golden Knights.

 

[Ainec]

I don't mind voting for MAF 3rd. But 2nd yeah.. revoke (which nobody did)

 

[Ainec]

what I find interesting is that all the Ovie votes were from big tv pundits / main stream news and coverage

and those that voted for Kuznetsov
-those covering vegas golden knights
-more analytics driven
-finland

 

[ES]

Ah didnt know they made these votes public. Cool! Are there more of these availible for other years?

No, PHWA announced in March that from this year onwards voting will be public. After the awards gala the similar information will be available for Hart, Norris, Calder, Selke, Masterton, Lady Byng, All-Star and All-Rookie voting.

 

[daver]

There were 3 choices (and only 3 of them):

Kuz
Ovi
Holtby

I mean it's not that difficult

MAF was great in Rounds 1-3, but he showed his true colors in the last Round (where it truly counts).
I mean as soon as Holtby comes in the Caps start winning. How's that not scream MVP?

Because MAF played considerably better until the SCF and the putting up an historically great goalie performance until the SCF. Holtby was the 3rd best Cap.

 

[22FUTON9]

I swear I saw someone claim that MAF was in front of Kuzy but I guess it was just bs trying to discredit Ovi's smythe

 

[Jumptheshark]

Those who voted for MAF should have their credentials revoked

For two 3rd place votes? They had to vote a Vegas guy I guess

 

[Lampedampe]

Also holy ****, didnt know Per Bjurman had a vote in this one.

That's a new low..

 

[sr edler]

Good on the Ilta-Sanomat guy for voting Kuznetsov. Not sure what that Swedish guy really knows about hockey though. He's a tabloid music journalist turned New York correspondent.

Also holy ****, didnt know Per Bjurman had a vote in this one.

I think he's been doing it for a couple of years now. Remember his name popped up before in some voting processes. I think he votes on the other awards too, actually. I have no idea how much he knows about hockey though because I obviously never read his tabloid.

 

[orby]

I think Kuznetsov should have won simply because he had such a massive point total, but Ovi certainly made his case so I don't think it's a travesty. I would have gone Kuzy-Ovi-Holtby in that order.

 

[VictorLustig]

Good on the Ilta-Sanomat guy for voting Kuznetsov. Not sure what that Swedish guy really knows about hockey though. He's a tabloid music journalist turned New York correspondent.



I think he's been doing it for a couple of years now. Remember his name popped up before in some voting processes. I think he votes on the other awards too, actually. I have no idea how much he knows about hockey though because I obviously never read his tabloid.

Per Bjurman is probably the most productive Swedish hockey journalist you can find. He’s been covering the NHL for as long as I can remember (>20 years) living in NY.

 

[Hybbe]

Per Bjurman is one of few good hockey writers in sweden, lightyears better than his colleagues from the same tabloid whose name shall never be uttered. He got it right this time, too.

 

[tarheelhockey]

MAF was great in Rounds 1-3, but he showed his true colors in the last Round (where it truly counts).

You talk like Fleury imploded or something. The Knights were completely outplayed in the Finals. Fleury let in a lot of goals, yes, but virtually all of them were either wide-open shots from close range or deflections impossible to stop. His personal performance wasn’t much different from the first three rounds to the fourth... no goalie would have beaten the Caps alone.

 

[ZeroPucksGiven]

You talk like Fleury imploded or something. The Knights were completely outplayed in the Finals. Fleury let in a lot of goals, yes, but virtually all of them were either wide-open shots from close range or deflections impossible to stop. His personal performance wasn’t much different from the first three rounds to the fourth... no goalie would have beaten the Caps alone.

True it would've taken a Hasek-like performance to beat the Caps, but he also didn't help himself by being completely out of position AND letting goals leak through him and to the short side, etc.
It was like he forgot how to play goalie in the SCF. He was bad. Didn't implode, but he was barely average

 

[JudgeandJury]

Why are there three writers working out of Vegas papers with votes? If you're including local writers where are the Detroit Free Press, Philly Enquirer, Boston Globe, Pittsburgh Post-Gazette, New York Post writers?

 

[sr edler]

He got it right this time, too.

He went with the emotional mainstream media driven narrative. I saw Jamie McLennan on TSN say straight out that Ovi should get the Conn Smythe as a life time achievement award. He didn't even hide that opinion. So of course a bunch of people will vote that way. It's human nature. Any real knowledgeable hockey person though saw that it was Kuznetsov who drove that line like crazy with his brilliant skating and puck carrying abilities, setting up guys left and right. So no, it's not even about the points. And Ovi only led him by 3 goals. And when Ovi wasn't set up by Kuznetsov he was by Bäckström, on the PP. Ovi had an inspired run though.