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I think we all hope you are right.
It would have been nice to have some talented defenseman ready to step right in. Instead Chia had to draft 521 centers.
Seids had problems with both his knees in the past, when that happens your goose is cooked.
Chara is 38 and has played about 1500 professional games (including international). Chara also has a PCL problem that can't be fixed, he is literally on his last legs as a professional hockey player.
If they are worse than last year I doubt that yields two lottery picks. It will be confirmation that they are cooked. Cooked players have negative value.
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Neely = HOF
I meant the Bruins and SJ 1st. Not what we would get in a trade for Chara+Seids...
ok , my bad. Your right about that though to a point, but how does us being bad make SJ's pick a lottery pick?
Unfortunately, I think this is probably correct. I imagine the recovery process is slower and less complete than with young players.
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Dallas, Colorado, Calgary, Minnesota will be better than they were last year and all of them will be fighting for the wild card spot, it's going to be a crazy fight and I personnally can't see San Jose making it.
Hey, I'm all for SJ doing bad, infact I'm counting on it, I just don't assume they will be. To me they can finish as high as 7th and as low as last year, many things figure into that. If Jones proves to be a real #1 it could help them out a lot. They haven't lost anyone worthwhile and have added Martin and Ward as well so they should be better.
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And their top players are 1 year older again, Martin is not the same anymore also.
I just see that Dallas for example got better more than San Jose did, not saying San Jose is bad but the West is damm impressive.
La will fight next year, Colorado should look a lot better than they did last year, Minnesota's D is only going to get better, Calgary will be better or should be better with the kids improving.
But they are on a much much weaker division, if Calgary kids can keep improving then San Jose is out.
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If this were 2011, then both Chara & Seidenberg could handle being paired with Trotman for a significant length of time and help cover for him whenever he makes inevitable mistakes.
Unfortunately, both Chara & Seidenberg are four years older, four years unhealthier, and four years slower. It will therefore be nearly impossible for either of them to cover for Trotman's lapses on a consistent basis, if on any basis.
Notwithstanding Troman's success paired with Chara last season or WBC8's optimism on their prognoses, I am in the camp of those who believe that both Chara's & Seidenberg's days as top-4-calibre Dmen, especially top-4s who are breaking-in a less-talented rookie partner, are numbered; and that number could very well begin and end with a Zero.
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Come to think of it, I think Clode is a perfect fit for this team going forward. I was skeptical after season's end, but then after coming to terms with the team today, he's the right guy for the job. They made the right decision there.
Caper Bruins fan
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Do you think he can squeeze out 1-2 years of reasonably good play with reduced ice time ?
Even if you are talking about reduced ice time, it means that Chara will play in the 20-22 minute range. It means the Bruins don't have a number one defencemen, they have a 2/3 in Chara 4/5 in Seidenberg and a bunch of 6/7's to fill the rest. Even if Chara can play 'reasonably' well this year, it still means our defence stinks.
Grumpy Grizz
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I Am all for blooding the youngsters this year. We have to bite the bullet some time and the sooner the better, then we can still have a few good years left with our ageing stars.
likely morrow and miller spend another year in providence getting reps and perfecting the systems and make the B's the following season on a ful time basis. Seids will likely be moved so they can get out of the 4M for the next few years as he's too banged up to be worth it. they are missing the true #1 Dman that chara used to be and that DH could have been but they need to address #2,3,4 along the way as well in which they only really have Krug maybe morrow/cmiller. so Franson would be a healthy addition and could porbably work well in the B's system.
Chara-?
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they need to move kevin miller and Seidenberg as soon as possible and trade for a yandle/seabrook type and sign franson. move some money on the back end.
next offseason CK 3M comes off the books, lucic retainer comes off and we'll be able to have some flex to sign a true #1 dman in the offseason.
Chara-?
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KMiller-Mcquaid
trotman/morrow/irwin
they need to move kevin miller and Seidenberg as soon as possible and trade for a yandle/seabrook type and sign franson. move some money on the back end.
next offseason CK 3M comes off the books, lucic retainer comes off and we'll be able to have some flex to sign a true #1 dman in the offseason.
And yet even with Chara playing injuried and Seids recovering from his ACL
The Bruins finished 8th overall in Goals against in the NHL
We're bringing back 4 D from last years team that was a top 10 Denfense and we got rid of Turnover machine Bartowski from our top 6...And Hamilton who was a great offensive player but struggle on D
I don't see why there is so much panic
With Even a slightly better Z And Seids and replacing Bart with Trotman or Colin this team will finish top 10 again in goals against
PatriceBergeronFan
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Chara is still a #1, especially defensively. Too much hype negativity on his game right now, it's turning his weaknesses (age, durability, skating) into these mythical mountains he cannot overcome.
It's not as bad, Chicken Little would be proud!
Chara is still capable of shutting down the elite offensive threats. He can still 'handle' big minutes. He is not 'barely' a top 4 defenseman now -- he is a top pairing #1 defenseman.
If I were Chara I'd be fed up with his naysayers, ask for a trade to a good team, and kick ass. Then the media can discuss what an unexpected miracle it is for his to mount a comeback against all odds, when he really did nothing out of the ordinary (for him).
Zdeno, if you are reading this I would love an autograph in exchange for defending you.
It's not as bad, Chicken Little would be proud!
Chara is still capable of shutting down the elite offensive threats. He can still 'handle' big minutes. He is not 'barely' a top 4 defenseman now -- he is a top pairing #1 defenseman.
If I were Chara I'd be fed up with his naysayers, ask for a trade to a good team, and kick ass. Then the media can discuss what an unexpected miracle it is for his to mount a comeback against all odds, when he really did nothing out of the ordinary (for him).
Zdeno, if you are reading this I would love an autograph in exchange for defending you.
