PanniniClaus
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Draft high, sell low.
Its unorthodox but it may just get enough fans to cancel their season tickets thus setting the stage for a move to Quebec. It's an evil plan.
Draft high, sell low.
You can argue that he shouldn't have waited so long to move Rychel, but let's not assume they Jarmo could have gone out there today to get more for Rychel and just didn't bother. Rychel fetched very little because he was overrated to begin with and his value sank like a stone over the course of the year.
I'm the one who was willing to entertain Rychel for Toronto's 2nd. That's a ransom compared to what we actually got, but it's also a far cry from the middle-1st pick many were projecting.
This time last year I also pointed out that Josh Anderson (of all people) had passed him in the depth chart.
But that said, I'm looking for a general manager to run this team who is better than 15 other general managers and can maybe turn a little straw into gold with these kind of deals. Where we would probably get Harrington + conditional 5th (aka nothing), we need a general manager who can turn nothing into something and "beat" the average NHL GM. What I'm saying is that if he isn't better than the average GM, we need to go searching for someone who is.
Jarmo consistently comes out on the short side of player negotiations and trades. Not horrible value, but slightly below average. Any single move isn't going to kill the franchise, but continual losses and inability to maximize value slowly bleeds the team dry. Yes, he's had a few hits (Saad, maybe Jones, Werenski, Bjorkstrand, etc.) but he's also had his share of misses (Gaborik, Horton/Clarkson, Rychel, etc.). If he's 50/50, that's not good enough. We need a guy who is 51/49.
Oh, and the Karlsson deal? Yeah, that was done (I believe) by Bill Zito while Jarmo was busy preparing for the draft.
I'm not sure who's having a worse weekend; David Cameron or Jarmo.
Interesting that so many on here defer to his scouting genius on the same weekend he shows he already squandered one of the 3 first round picks he inherited in 2013.
Would anybody on here object to replacing Jarmo at general manager and demoting him to the head of amateur scouting?
Yes because as head of scouting he is going to tell you not to take Puljujarvi and if you think he is wrong and overrule him then what good was he to that process?
Doesn't seem like a great deal for CBJ. To paraphrase sam, we need another third line stiff like a hole in the head. Good sign for Anderson.
Deal gets better all the time. I "know" Rychel & Co might be a head case/pain in theass but sheesh this return is why bother?
2nd half of the season + AHL playoffs tanked Rychel's value, but I still think we could've got a better deal than this. Harrington isn't awful, but we've got enough bottom pairing D.
Murray-Jones
Johnson-Savard
Werenski-Goloubef
Prout/Harrington
Tyutin bought out?
My fear is that none of the youngsters will see the ice because of the logjam of bad contracts in front of them. This should have been a firesale weekend to dump bad contracts and here we are picking up injured defensemen. Oh wait jarmo is well versed in shoulder injuries.I'm the one who was willing to entertain Rychel for Toronto's 2nd. That's a ransom compared to what we actually got, but it's also a far cry from the middle-1st pick many were projecting.
This time last year I also pointed out that Josh Anderson (of all people) had passed him in the depth chart.
But that said, I'm looking for a general manager to run this team who is better than 15 other general managers and can maybe turn a little straw into gold with these kind of deals. Where we would probably get Harrington + conditional 5th (aka nothing), we need a general manager who can turn nothing into something and "beat" the average NHL GM. What I'm saying is that if he isn't better than the average GM, we need to go searching for someone who is.
Jarmo consistently comes out on the short side of player negotiations and trades. Not horrible value, but slightly below average. Any single move isn't going to kill the franchise, but continual losses and inability to maximize value slowly bleeds the team dry. Yes, he's had a few hits (Saad, maybe Jones, Werenski, Bjorkstrand, etc.) but he's also had his share of misses (Gaborik, Horton/Clarkson, Rychel, etc.). If he's 50/50, that's not good enough. We need a guy who is 51/49.
Oh, and the Karlsson deal? Yeah, that was done (I believe) by Bill Zito while Jarmo was busy preparing for the draft.
You can argue that he shouldn't have waited so long to move Rychel, but let's not assume they Jarmo could have gone out there today to get more for Rychel and just didn't bother. Rychel fetched very little because he was overrated to begin with and his value sank like a stone over the course of the year.
no he wasn'tRychel was pretty good after the first round.
Jarmo continuing to prove he sucks lol
Scott Howson got a 3rd round pick for Nikita Filatov. Who threw countless coaches under the bus, quit trying, uncoachable, and fled for Russia.
Jarmo might have got a 5th for a guy who played good in the AHL last year, and struggled a bit this year.
That's exactly the example I was about to cite. That and the Zherdev return.
We have now seen yet another demonstration of how Kekalainen, when he's in a trouble spot, doubles down on the bad rather than recovering well like Howson did.
How many times is this going to be tolerated?
You can argue that he shouldn't have waited so long to move Rychel, but let's not assume they Jarmo could have gone out there today to get more for Rychel and just didn't bother. Rychel fetched very little because he was overrated to begin with and his value sank like a stone over the course of the year.
You guys are comparing Zherdev and Filatov to Rychel, like for real?That's exactly the example I was about to cite. That and the Zherdev return.
We have now seen yet another demonstration of how Kekalainen, when he's in a trouble spot, doubles down on the bad rather than recovering well like Howson did.
How many times is this going to be tolerated?