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dahrougem2
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MacKinnon looks like a guy who misses Gabe Landeskog right now. He is putting WAY more effort defensively but he looks unsure on offense.
Though he had a couple of legit gripes with the refs last night for interference/holding penalties that went uncalled.
Though he had a couple of legit gripes with the refs last night for interference/holding penalties that went uncalled.
Metallo
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- Oct 24, 2008
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These impact cards don't mean shit.
Jack Johnson is in the middle and he was by far one of the worst players on the ice yesterday. Tufte, on eye test alone, was much better than that.
I put so, so little into those silly numbers.
Jack Johnson is in the middle and he was by far one of the worst players on the ice yesterday. Tufte, on eye test alone, was much better than that.
I put so, so little into those silly numbers.
Nuke was whatever, but RyJo had some very good moments of skill in this game. Some good defensive plays as well.
No one was so low last night. -1 is a low score. Avs didn't have anyone close to that. Tufte has some defensively flaws to his game, but I thought he was good on offense and along the boards. He ain't the best shooter though because he didn't do anything with a few high danger chances. The one Girard set him up with was a sick sick play by spinning man.
Bo get going? Dude... watch the games this season.
Byram is the best defender we've put on the ice so far this season. It's increasingly obvious every game that Byram has surpassed Toews as a NHL hockey player. Girard also having a rock solid start to his season.
D Toews is the guy we need to pick it up. His start to this season is a continuation of his poor play vs Seattle. It's a bit vexing given the contract we gave Toews.
Makar just needs to get healthy.
UncleRisto
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- Aug 25, 2006
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Sitting on his couch waiting for a loss.
I'm sure it makes you sad.
Your pals Alex Turcotte and Kirby Dach just can't get their NHL careers going or stay on the ice.
dahrougem2
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Yeah. No. This isn't true.
Ararana
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Not IMO. He's putting up some really good advanced stats but he's making a lot of mistakes too. Not too surprising for a kid who just hit 100 games. He'll get there.
Which defensemen do you think these are?
Byram and Makar, respectively
lionsDen
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Yeah I don’t always get the hate. He had a great shot I guess someone’s gotta be the whipping boy.
GeoRox89
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That’s a bold statement when Manson and JMFJ have played meaningful minutes.
Now, Byram being the biggest disappointment relative to expectations would be a fairer statement. He’s in an awkward spot where when he makes a mistake it’s quite a spectacular one that is memorable and most of his good play has been pretty quiet and forgettable from a guy we’re used to being flashier. So end up remembering the bad moments without noticing most of the good.
His good play reminds me of why I’ve like Olofsson - I barely notice him. That’s actually a pretty great quality out of a 4th liner. He’s just out there doing his job and not making mistakes that make me take notice.
Spilot23
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Hard to say "the best defender" so far this season when almost everyone is not looking great. Maybe most decent one? Even then Byram had his fair share of bad plays. Manson and JJ being the worst ones. Makar looks like 1st season Makar where he keeps fumbling the puck, fail to clear or missing coverage. Toews has been fine but I see him trying to rush offensively much more often than before which sometimes create an odd man rush. Girard has been surprisingly good though not bad for our whipping boy.
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Bo certainly hasn’t been the best dman on the team this season… he also hasn’t been the worst. Bo started off pretty rough and its gotten better, but I still don’t think he’s been anywhere near as good as he’s been.
I think there’s a legit argument Girards been our best dman(relative to expectations)to start the year. He’s been quite good, but also its a bit of a problem if he’s the best of the group imo.
I think there’s a legit argument Girards been our best dman(relative to expectations)to start the year. He’s been quite good, but also its a bit of a problem if he’s the best of the group imo.
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NorthernAvsFan
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I don’t really care who’s the best on the team over a nine game stretch (it’s not Byram).
What I’d like to see is the non established guys that still have potential continue to develop. Byram, Prosvetov,, Tufte… those guys getting better make the team better.
I still follow advanced stats/underlying numbers, but not as religiously as I used to.
JT Compher being touted as a Selke level defensive player by advanced stats guys just never clicked with me from what I saw on the ice. I also find the individual game sheets don’t take into account a lot of things that matter in a game. Puck pressure, matchups, plays in big moments, stuff like that isn’t registered.
I still enjoy seeing posts about the advanced stats on here, because I can test it against what I’ve seen.
I thought all our D looked good last night tbh. Makar dominated the 3rd. Byram made a big breakup in the slot that led to his goal. Girard looked very nimble, which is when he’s always at his best. JJ/Manson looked quite stable. Toews was solid. He hasn’t stood out os much as he usually does this year, but even when he’s quiet he’s doing a lot of valuable things.
What I’d like to see is the non established guys that still have potential continue to develop. Byram, Prosvetov,, Tufte… those guys getting better make the team better.
I still follow advanced stats/underlying numbers, but not as religiously as I used to.
JT Compher being touted as a Selke level defensive player by advanced stats guys just never clicked with me from what I saw on the ice. I also find the individual game sheets don’t take into account a lot of things that matter in a game. Puck pressure, matchups, plays in big moments, stuff like that isn’t registered.
I still enjoy seeing posts about the advanced stats on here, because I can test it against what I’ve seen.
I thought all our D looked good last night tbh. Makar dominated the 3rd. Byram made a big breakup in the slot that led to his goal. Girard looked very nimble, which is when he’s always at his best. JJ/Manson looked quite stable. Toews was solid. He hasn’t stood out os much as he usually does this year, but even when he’s quiet he’s doing a lot of valuable things.
- Oct 24, 2008
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I just want two things out of my 4th line for the most part; get pucks out and get pucks in deep. Olof does those things adequately well.
If you can add some jam and the odd scoring, all the better.
Ceremony
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Jack Johnson started pointing at things last night. I don't need him becoming the General.
Best defenders overall this season
1. Makar
2. Girard
3. Toews
4. JMFJ
5. Byram
6. Manson
Byram is trending up and JMFJ is trending down.
1. Makar
2. Girard
3. Toews
4. JMFJ
5. Byram
6. Manson
Byram is trending up and JMFJ is trending down.
Tommy Shelby
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