Post-Series Talk: Colorado Avalanche defeat the Winnipeg Jets, 4-1

[blundluntman]

The big question is how will he handle a long run?

There were comments about him being tired months ago already

Yeah that's definitely the thing in question here. Hopefully he can get some rest time in between rounds to buffer things a bit. I'd like to see Vegas and Dallas go 7 games and so on

 

[ChuckFanForever]

This was a interesting experiment:
Took the highest scoring team (in the regular season) and pit them against the highest defensive (tied for fewest goals allowed in the regular season) team. I would have expected a closer series. But should the conclusion be: The Best Defense is Great Offense!

 

[Tkachuk Norris]

Still can’t believe they paid more for Monahan than the Knights did for Hanifin. Wtf

 

[John Mandalorian]

thats the thing about the uber elite - they can look average and put up 9 pts in 5 gp

Not saying this was his best series, but you can't say he got shut down when he had 9 pts in 5 gp, opportunistic or not

MacKinnon hit 2 posts one of the games at 5 on 5. They didn’t go in but let’s say they did but instead two of his PP assists hit posts but didn’t go in. Very little would have changed regarding the activity on the ice but his interpretation would likely be vastly different.

That’s why this commentary is a little short sighted and somewhat obnoxious"

 

[dmac7719]

How is it that every other team realized that playing your starter 60+ times every year didn't lead to PO wins besides the Jets?

Worked for the Avs

 

[Filthy Dangles]

Hellabuck would've been had to been superman to win, he wasn't the issue. Look at the Colorado goals scored.

1st - Backdoor play off the rush wide open.
2nd - Trenin allowed to walk right in front unimpeded from below goal line.
3rd - Own goal shot in by dman
4th - High tip, dman didn't tie up the stick
5th - 2on1 pass across slot with two elite players

Maybe he makes a save or two on these in regular season. The Jets team just isn't it and counting on a goalie to play out of his mind and carry you aint it either

 

[viper0220]

Still can’t believe they paid more for Monahan than the Knights did for Hanifin. Wtf

I still cannot grasp this, is the Jets GM that bad? Or Craig Conroy sucks. It is likey one or both of these things, I am thinking both.

 

[Plastic Joseph]

MacKinnon hit 2 posts one of the games at 5 on 5. They didn’t go in but let’s say they did but instead two of his PP assists hit posts but didn’t go in. Very little would have changed regarding the activity on the ice but his interpretation would likely be vastly different.

That’s why this commentary is a little short sighted and somewhat obnoxious"

he also leads the playoffs in SOG - he was flat out not shut down at all

 

[Connor McConnor]

Dallas is not a bad matchup for Colorado actually, style wise. The Avs have had their number for years now.

Likewise, Vegas has had the Avs number for years now.

This is the best team Dallas has had in that span though and I think they have the depth scoring to keep up while also having a better goalie

 

[JetsWillFly4Ever]

Congrats Avs fans.

Was generally a shit-kicking up and down the ice for 5 games.

 

[BB79]

Good, one less Canadian team in the playoffs. Hopefully we'll drop another one Thursday night.

 

[ijuka]

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At least Jets received consistent goaltending.

 

[I Hate Blake Coleman]

How did the Jets lose the goaltending duel

 

[NOTENOUGHRYJOTHINGS]

Lowry: "I thought we played well. The difference is our line gives up 3 against the MacKinnon line."

He did a good job overall, but yesterday they got torched and that's all it takes. One bad game and the MacK line put up 6 points.

Seems like a good captain. Said all the right things. Took some accountability for his line giving up 3.

Also plays really hard each shift.

 

[HockeyVirus]

Jets are what people think the Leafs are. Fold every playoff, stars vanish with no push back.

Leafs players actually make it a series every year and win some games.

 

[T REX]

helly was brutal

 

[bossram]

How did the Jets lose the goaltending duel

Goaltending is voodoo and banking on it is foolish.

I said before the series that the Jets are frauds. They're not really a good team. Mostly propped up by elite goaltending. When they don't get elite goaltending, this is the result.

This happened last year. They overplay Helly in the regular season, then he collapsed in the playoffs.

 

[NotCommitted]

They didn't lose because of Hellebuyck, but how can you be happy with a consistent .870 sv% over a series? Relying on a goalie stealing games is a horrible plan, but then again if he actually stole a game, maybe that would've sparked up the team and also got into the heads of Avs a bit.

 

[bossram]

Helle wasn't the true problem this series, but he also didn't really help. He needed to rise above the bad team in front of him and he didn't, simple as that.

The premise of the Jets is that they need a big goaltending advantage to be successful.

If they don't get it, this is what it looks like.

 

[Avsfan1921]

Gg jets, same to the fans as well. We had some fun banter and managed to actually talk hockey a fair bit which is hard to do when most fan bases want to complain about dirty teams or bad officiating. It was actually the least toxic series among fans I can remember in some time.

Pegs downfall was not playing physical enough imo. Getting the puck deep and hammering our d is a tried and true way to slow them down. I fully expected the jets forwards to do that and am very surprised that they didn’t. Next series will be a lot rougher on our boys I think.

 

[dukedukowski]

Team Kronke wins again

 

[BlueOil]

thought it would take 7 games for the Avs, but the ghost of PLD infected the jets it seems

buzzsaw performance from the Avs

 

[OVO16]

Was hilarious in hindsight too see the overreaction to the shellacking the Avs got by the jets at the end of the regular season. right before the playoffs started

I told yall, recency bias is a bitch. The avs were always the better team.

Also, Hellebuck is a straight up fraud

 

[Avsavsavsavsavs]

This is the best team Dallas has had in that span though and I think they have the depth scoring to keep up while also having a better goalie

Oettinger has had a fairly down season, the Avs have more grit and size than they have at any point with this core. The only thing you worry about with Dallas is who Jamie Benn is going to injure when he gets mad.

 

[tucker3434]

They didn't lose because of Hellebuyck, but how can you be happy with a consistent .870 sv% over a series? Relying on a goalie stealing games is a horrible plan, but then again if he actually stole a game, maybe that would've sparked up the team and also got into the heads of Avs a bit.

Which one could he have realistically stolen? Through the critical middle 3 games, the Jets scored 2 goals or less every game. The total goal differential for that 3 game stretch, excluding the 3 empty netters, was 8. There were a few goals in those games Helle would like to have back, but most of them were either grade A chances or deflections/rebounds. Give him 4 back, that would have put him at a respectable .910. It would move his goals versus expected from -1 to +3. And the Jets still need 4 goals from somewhere just to even it up.

Maybe if he doesn't mishandle the puck against Parise in game 2 which lead to the GWG, the Jets could have hung around. But it's so hard to give them the benefit of the doubt, because Manson was scoring on a breakaway 2 minutes later. They hung Helle out to dry over and over and over again.