Post-Game Talk: Cole's Plus/Minus: POWERPLAY GOALS, ZAR, EMPTY NETTERS

[Will Hunting]

Jankowski - McCann - Sceviour would be a hell of a lot better than what we’ve been icing.

Still no identity and very random. But a bit better.

 

[Dipsy Doodle]

When you see people posting that Crosby makes the team worse and that the team should be built around Malkin you know people have gone off the deep end.

Well ya that's dumb.

We just saw one if you think the Caps are a contender lol.

The Caps top 6 is playing and producing to their established standard. Ours is not.

 

[ChaosAgent]

The Caps are so bad. They haven't played a good game out of the three and yet we've barely won. It's embarrassing they were even in this game. Shows how bad we are too. Vanacek was really bad tonight too.

It's funny watching the BART line control the puck against their top lines but not even get within sniffing distance of a shot. It's fine if that's your fourth line, but they need to produce something if they're our third.

+ Rust putting some chances away
+ Movement on the PP finally. How fricken hard was that? Did NHL superstars really need to be told that you have to skate and try to score in order to score? SMH. Who would have thought that the threat of actual shots would open something up down low.
+ Matheson did the thing! Smooth play on the goal, otherwise stayed out of trouble.
- Letang still trying to do way too much with the puck. Where the coaching at?
+/- POJ is playing like a very talented rookie. Glad he's got the chance to play through it with the injuries. I hope he gets to keep playing when we're healthy, but he's making 3-4 unforced mistakes of the type the coaches always hate every game.
- Why isn't Kapanen on the PK? Especially when it's doing so badly? Could use a boost there and it's one of his biggest weapons. Sully going galaxy brain. This is almost as bad as left wing Iginla.
+ Marino. Much better tonight, even with the booboos he made. He's pretty dominant skating the puck out even if he's not a threat offensively. He really is right handed Dumo.
+ Ceci?? Played with a lot of confidence.
+ Guentzel starting to look like Guentzel again. Could've easily had another one or two.
+ Jarry was NHL quality tonight. Not at fault for any of the goals.

Great post. And didn't mention the 2nd line once, which I and everyone here is guilty of harping on.

But there's much more to the game.
BART did generate a goal so there's that. I remember last year despite all the slobbering about them they stunk at generating actual quality scoring chances. However I think this year Teddy (and dare I say ZAR?) may be evolved as offensive hockey players. We can hope.

 

[Slaaapshuter]

Still think it was the right thing to start Jarry, and I still thnk he should start the next games.

Fight me on this

 

[mpp9]

I don’t see them moving Zucker with the 1st we traded for him floating unprotected.

Nor would burying him on the 4th line rather than try to get some value back for him to build a better team and keep that pick from being lotto territory.

 

[Tom Hanks]

Rusty going to Top Gun

 

[dogthateats]

Still think it was the right thing to start Jarry, and I still thnk he should start the next games.

Fight me on this

Yeah I prefer Jarry over Legace too

 

[Ryder71]

Still no identity and very random. But a bit better.

I'd go
DOC-McCann-Sceviour

 

[Gurglesons]

Well ya that's dumb.



The Caps top 6 is playing and producing to their established standard. Ours is not.

Are we talking top six or second line?

Because our L2 is producing much better at 5v5 then Washington’s.

 

[ChaosAgent]

When you see people posting that Crosby makes the team worse

In general this is an incredibly stupid take, I agree.

In the specific case of last year, when Sid came back and played defense with total indifference that rubbed off on the team and actively hurt us.

Moving forward though I want to see Sid best set up to succeed as he is our best player.

 

[Ryder71]

Rusty going to Top Gun

Highway to the danger zone?

 

[Gurglesons]

Nor would burying him on the 4th line rather than try to get some value back for him to build a better team and keep that pick from being lotto territory.

If we can get a functioning line with Zucker - McCann - Sceviour that won’t be L4.

 

[Andy99]

What is Zucker and what kind of center would he fit well with?

Or is his best position as a line-driver for a solid 3rd line? His physical tools in hands and skating are there but his offensive IQ is average.

Hypothetically Zucker-Blueger-Kapanen is an amazing 3rd line but that leaves a void with Malkin.

at this point, I’d rather have ZAR and Tanev play with Geno...

 

[Dipsy Doodle]

Are we talking top six or second line?

Each member of their top 6 is producing about on par with what they generally do, or better.

 

[Randy Butternubs]

+to @Zirakzigil for all the Anne Hathaway gifs

 

[Tom Hanks]

 

[mpp9]

If we can get a functioning line with Zucker - McCann - Sceviour that won’t be L4.

Sully will play BART over that line all day.

No shame in moving on from Zucker. He still has value but may not be the right fit for what we need. This would almost be an exact replica of Perron/Hags. Get a less productive player but better fit, improve the team but lose out on a potentially great pick like Barzal.

 

[Gurglesons]

Sully will play BART over that line all day.

No shame in moving on from Zucker. He still has value but may not be the right fit for what we need. This would almost be an exact replica of Perron/Hags. Get a less productive player but better fit, improve the team but lose out on a potentially great pick like Barzal.

The shame is if we miss the playoffs and the trade doesn’t work out you’ve lost a lottery unprotected 1st and the player.

Also, Zucker fits here. Just not with Malkin. I dunno, I just let it play out versus trading him.

 

[mpp9]

The shame is if we miss the playoffs and the trade doesn’t work out you’ve lost a lottery unprotected 1st and the player.

Also, Zucker fits here. Just not with Malkin.

You get the player you traded Zucker for? I mean, yeah you don’t abandon hope on the season because of that lotto pick looming over your head, but that’s in the past. You try to build the best team you can now and move past it.

Jake and Sid ain’t getting separated so it is what it is. If Zucker doesn’t fit with Malkin, he’s running out of use for this team at 5+ mil.

 

[Gurglesons]

You get the player you traded Zucker for? I mean, yeah you don’t abandon hope on the season because of that lotto pick looming over your head, but that’s in the past. You try to build the best team you can now and move past it.

Jake and Sid ain’t getting separated so it is what it is. If Zucker doesn’t fit with Malkin, he’s running out of use for this team at 5+ mil.

Maybe we move him for Bennett and a 1st?

 

[mpp9]

Maybe we move him for Bennett and a 1st?

Ideally, lol.

 

[Gurglesons]

Ideally, lol.

The Flames deal was originally Frolik and a 1st for Zucker I believe.

 

[Zirakzigil]

+to @Zirakzigil for all the Anne Hathaway gifs

 

[Zirakzigil]

The Flames deal was originally Frolik and a 1st for Zucker I believe.

Tis so, paperwork wasnt filed on time with the league at the deadline.

 

[Gurglesons]

Definition of a butter face.