Claude Julien was asked about the shootout format tonight

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Don't think many people like the gimmick. Even teams who are good at it probably think it's a joke.
 

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no doubt Julien would hate on arguably the most skilled part of the game now.... and no doubt we are just wretched at it.

Unfortauntly character/grit doesn't do squat compared to skill/talent in shootouts.
 

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They do ****ing suck, but they can also be the difference between making it to the dance and golfing. That was a frustrating SO to watch. Poor Rask.
 
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Hate shootouts. Always have.

Go to a three point ROW system and I change my tune. But not before.

Too much of a season's success for a team game can ride on how well individuals perform in a skills competition. Winning in a shootout is one hair different from winning in regulation. It's an asinine system and any jerk could have predicted it from the start.

And I PROMISE... If the Bruins were amazing in the SO, I'd feel precisely the same way.
 

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I'm a Clode/system guy, but the SO performance borders on a fire-able offense.

I mean, they are worth a point. We play entire games for 2 points.

How many points have they had no chance at picking up? 8-10?

They clearly are not addressing the problem. There are thousands of ways you can gameplan your way through this gimic.

What have we seen? A few years of the same 3 shooters...and then...whoever is doing well in practice at the moment...

I get the feeling the team just finishes up practice with some breakaways.

That's criminal mismanagement.

Their SO production is so laughable that it should stand out to everyone.

Neely should be banging on the door saying WTF? You're embarassing the B. Get it right. Work on it. Maybe think about it a little.
 

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Time for who to adjust?

The players, the coach, and ownership...

So everybody

If the team was good at shootouts, they wouldn't have to worry so much about making the playoffs.

Also, if you suck so bad at shootouts, it usually shows how bad you are at offense.
 

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They really have to revise this...teams will make the playoffs based off of this stupid extra point.

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Bring back Dawg ;)

I mean, this is what it's coming to when teams start thinking about it.

Yeah, he normally wouldn't make one of my 4th line wing spots, but he's a 50+% shooter in the SO.

That's at least 6-8 SO points he'll account for...

I think we've fugured it out, Bettman wants the SO specialist to take over for the enforcer specialist. Heh
 

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clode didn't know khokhlachev was good at shootouts. thats when i gave up.
 

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That was the Bruins SO winning formula, a goal from Seguin - first shooter, and 3 stops from TT.

Seems about right. As simple a gameplan as possible.
 

Mr. Make-Believe

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Ahh I knew there would be that 1 person who couldn't comprehend what I was saying. Look up the word "usually" and get back to me.

Yeah, I'm a ****in' moron.

How about Tampa Bay? Lousy offensive team? They're 2-4.

How about Colorado? Good offensive team? They're 8-4.

How about Montreal? Good offensive team? They're 6-2.

But maybe I'm just too stupid to comprehend what you were trying to say. Top ten offensive teams in the league... Five of em' are .500 or WORSE in the shootout.

What does the word "usually" mean to you?
 

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The Bruins are in the same boat as their opponents for the final wild card spot as far as shootouts go:

Florida is 6-10
Philly is 4-7
Ottawa is 3-6
Boston is 2-7
 

Mpasta

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Yeah, I'm a ****in' moron.

How about Tampa Bay? Lousy offensive team? They're 2-4.

How about Colorado? Good offensive team? They're 8-4.

How about Montreal? Good offensive team? They're 6-2.

But maybe I'm just too stupid to comprehend what you were trying to say. Top ten offensive teams in the league... Five of em' are .500 or WORSE in the shootout.

What does the word "usually" mean to you?

Oh you did your research. I'm happy for you. I've been talking about more than 2/3 of a season. But keep grasping at straws and picking the few teams that suit your argument and then maybe you'll realize that the Bruins don't have goal scorers on the team or people who can finish. How many Bruins are in the top 50 for goals this season? Do your homework on that one if you want.
 
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Remember the Bergeron Move he did for like most of his career?

Cut across, backhand, forehand, five-hole or far side.

It wore out.

But that's an example of putting a little thought into it. You wanna create a move that a goalie can easily jump the gun and guess wrong on.

If he jumps five-hole, you drag and go around the pad far post...if he covers the post with his pad, you slide middle...

Very simple. But leaves room for thinking and doubt.

Yes, the goalie might think with you and stonewall it, but it's gotta be a 35-40% solid play.

Start creating high risk high reward moves.

4 for the last 45 is absolutly broken. It's been time for drastic change.
 

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Yeah, I'm a ****in' moron.

How about Tampa Bay? Lousy offensive team? They're 2-4.

How about Colorado? Good offensive team? They're 8-4.

How about Montreal? Good offensive team? They're 6-2.

But maybe I'm just too stupid to comprehend what you were trying to say. Top ten offensive teams in the league... Five of em' are .500 or WORSE in the shootout.

What does the word "usually" mean to you?

Overall record in the shootout isn't a reliable indicator of a team's ability to put the puck in the net during regular play. First the goalie has a fair bit of influence. So, MTL being 6-2 might have more to do with Price than the shooters, same with Tampa, maybe their tenders aren't good in shootouts. What i'd find a more interesting comparison is a teams scoring % in SO's and how that correlates to scoring in the actual game. If Team A scores twice, but their goalie lets in all three shots, they still lose, conversely if you're going against the B's you only need to go 1 for 9ish to win the SO

All that said, its pretty ****ing apparent the Bruins are REALLY bad at scoring in the shootout and haven't exactly burned out any red lights during regular action either this season.
 

Mr. Make-Believe

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Oh you did your research. I'm happy for you. I've been talking about more than 2/3 of a season. But keep grasping at staws and picking the few teams that suit your argument and then maybe you'll realize that the Bruins don't have goal scorers on the team or people who can finish. How many Bruins are in the top 50 for goals this season? Do your homework on that one if you want.

Oh! So you want to have a DIFFERENT argument... I get it now.

A team's record in the shootout has nothing to do with how well the team scores goals as a TEAM. The shootout record is ONLY indicative of how successful that team is at SHOOTOUTS.

Now you want to say that the Bruins are hard pressed for goal scoring in general? Look at that! We agree! The Bruins DO have trouble scoring goals.

But shootout record would not be my choice of evidence to illustrate that fact. Because that would be ******, inaccurate evidence that would miserably fail to strengthen my position.

EDIT: You're right. I made up those stats. :laugh: I totally didn't take three minutes out of my hectic night to go to NHL.com and click on the goals-for filter. That would be WAY too much effort.
 

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